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Knight Mountaineer vs Remington UML
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<blockquote data-quote="ENCORE" data-source="post: 1033861" data-attributes="member: 33046"><p>I believe the rifle I was to set up for the owner, just plain and simple has a bad barrel. I've heard from a fairly reliable source that Remington had a bad run of barrels and this may be one of them. The good news, Remington will take care of the problem. An inconvenience to the owner, but at least its not hunting season.</p><p> </p><p>I scoped the barrel and it was full of what looked like Ziebart coating, also showing something like contamination of something. I was very concerned with that but, decided to scrub the barrel...... THAT turned into a 5 hour fruitless attempt over 3 days. I used everything except some of the most toxic solutions, which removed the majority of the gunk. Mineral spirits wouldn't touch it, then I used NAPA Premium De-greaser also. However it did not remove it all in the corners of the lands and groves. OF COURSE THE STOCK WAS NOT ON THE BARREL BUT ON THE <u>OTHER SIDE OF THE ROOM</u>. I didn't want that stock near anything that could harm it. </p><p> </p><p>When my "labor of love" reached its limit, it was obvious something was seriously wrong with the barrel. It appears to have tooling chatter. A lot of it. I remember running a broach machine during co-op in "69", my first thought was of a broach skipping or chattering. It was time to contact Remington about the condition of the barrel......</p><p> </p><p>After explaining the condition of the barrel to Remington and what I had done, the rep indicated that it was a bad barrel, and the owner needed to return it to Remington. Of course completely paid for by Remington. The owner needs to make the arrangements and I'll help him any way I can. He lives 200 miles from me but, we'll get it taken care of.</p><p> </p><p>I have a few photos of the barrel, which the owner WANTS shared.</p><p> </p><p>UNFIRED, NEW FROM THE BOX photo of the inside of the barrel:</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/BarnesAddict/media/Yoteantidotes%20Remington%20Ultimate%20Muzzleloader/Snap0002_zps3d38514d.png.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o800/BarnesAddict/Yoteantidotes%20Remington%20Ultimate%20Muzzleloader/Snap0002_zps3d38514d.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/BarnesAddict/media/Yoteantidotes%20Remington%20Ultimate%20Muzzleloader/Snap0001_zps4fb1f779.png.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o800/BarnesAddict/Yoteantidotes%20Remington%20Ultimate%20Muzzleloader/Snap0001_zps4fb1f779.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>After all the different solvents, five (5) hours of scrubbing, the following is the last photo I took before calling Remington. If you look closely where the lands and groves meet, you can still see part of the remaining substance that was so hard to remove. Notice what appears to be tooling chattering marks:</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/BarnesAddict/media/Yoteantidotes%20Remington%20Ultimate%20Muzzleloader/Afterallthework3_zps37d87785.png.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o800/BarnesAddict/Yoteantidotes%20Remington%20Ultimate%20Muzzleloader/Afterallthework3_zps37d87785.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ENCORE, post: 1033861, member: 33046"] I believe the rifle I was to set up for the owner, just plain and simple has a bad barrel. I've heard from a fairly reliable source that Remington had a bad run of barrels and this may be one of them. The good news, Remington will take care of the problem. An inconvenience to the owner, but at least its not hunting season. I scoped the barrel and it was full of what looked like Ziebart coating, also showing something like contamination of something. I was very concerned with that but, decided to scrub the barrel...... THAT turned into a 5 hour fruitless attempt over 3 days. I used everything except some of the most toxic solutions, which removed the majority of the gunk. Mineral spirits wouldn't touch it, then I used NAPA Premium De-greaser also. However it did not remove it all in the corners of the lands and groves. OF COURSE THE STOCK WAS NOT ON THE BARREL BUT ON THE [U]OTHER SIDE OF THE ROOM[/U]. I didn't want that stock near anything that could harm it. When my "labor of love" reached its limit, it was obvious something was seriously wrong with the barrel. It appears to have tooling chatter. A lot of it. I remember running a broach machine during co-op in "69", my first thought was of a broach skipping or chattering. It was time to contact Remington about the condition of the barrel...... After explaining the condition of the barrel to Remington and what I had done, the rep indicated that it was a bad barrel, and the owner needed to return it to Remington. Of course completely paid for by Remington. The owner needs to make the arrangements and I'll help him any way I can. He lives 200 miles from me but, we'll get it taken care of. I have a few photos of the barrel, which the owner WANTS shared. UNFIRED, NEW FROM THE BOX photo of the inside of the barrel: [URL=http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/BarnesAddict/media/Yoteantidotes%20Remington%20Ultimate%20Muzzleloader/Snap0002_zps3d38514d.png.html][IMG]http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o800/BarnesAddict/Yoteantidotes%20Remington%20Ultimate%20Muzzleloader/Snap0002_zps3d38514d.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/BarnesAddict/media/Yoteantidotes%20Remington%20Ultimate%20Muzzleloader/Snap0001_zps4fb1f779.png.html][IMG]http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o800/BarnesAddict/Yoteantidotes%20Remington%20Ultimate%20Muzzleloader/Snap0001_zps4fb1f779.png[/IMG][/URL] After all the different solvents, five (5) hours of scrubbing, the following is the last photo I took before calling Remington. If you look closely where the lands and groves meet, you can still see part of the remaining substance that was so hard to remove. Notice what appears to be tooling chattering marks: [URL=http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/BarnesAddict/media/Yoteantidotes%20Remington%20Ultimate%20Muzzleloader/Afterallthework3_zps37d87785.png.html][IMG]http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o800/BarnesAddict/Yoteantidotes%20Remington%20Ultimate%20Muzzleloader/Afterallthework3_zps37d87785.png[/IMG][/URL] [/QUOTE]
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