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Kimber Montana .30-06
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<blockquote data-quote="lloydsmale" data-source="post: 1029614" data-attributes="member: 41442"><p>all of my rifles are free floated. Even light barreled guns. Heres my take on it. Ive floated and bedded every rifle ive ever own other then ones that came pillar bedded already. Even the Winchesters that are factory bedded use a soft bedding compound that isn't much good so I dig it out and rebed the stocks. Ive have had guns shoot substantially better afterward had them shoot about the same afterward but have never seen one shoot worse. Keep in mind im saying that I not only float the barrel but bed the action too. </p><p> </p><p>In my opinion that's a lot of what that pressure point is doing on factory guns and is why they do it. they don't want to spend the money bedding every gun so they leave a pressure point to help keep the barreled action from moving around. I Had a tech at weatherby when I sent back a *** 257 vanguard try to tell me that they use special steel in there barrels that need pressure half way up to shoot. I asked them if they paid extra for that "special steel" that nobody else can get and he didn't know what to say. I told him the truth, that they use a pressure point to save money and he wouldn't denie it. Somehow his special steel barrel had chatter marks all through the rifling. Accuracy would go to #### after only 5 or 6 rounds until you cleaned it. they cleaned it shot a 3 shot group (at 50 fricking yards) or maybe didn't because the target was a photo copy of one not an actual target, that had 3 shots into a bit less then an inch and said that met there accuracy standard for that gun</p><p> </p><p>I hear guys all the time claim that you need this pressure point but ask them if theyd rest there barrel on a gun rest when shooting and they'll laugh at you. Its the same thing. Bottom line is if your gun is bedded properly and it still needs a pressure point its probably a barrel problem and its doubtful if that gun will ever be a tack driver and this doesn't matter if the barrel is as thin as a pencil or as thick as a water pipe. With that pressure point you are going to have a lot more problems with wood stock warpage and even shot groups stringing vertically when the barrel heats up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lloydsmale, post: 1029614, member: 41442"] all of my rifles are free floated. Even light barreled guns. Heres my take on it. Ive floated and bedded every rifle ive ever own other then ones that came pillar bedded already. Even the Winchesters that are factory bedded use a soft bedding compound that isn't much good so I dig it out and rebed the stocks. Ive have had guns shoot substantially better afterward had them shoot about the same afterward but have never seen one shoot worse. Keep in mind im saying that I not only float the barrel but bed the action too. In my opinion that's a lot of what that pressure point is doing on factory guns and is why they do it. they don't want to spend the money bedding every gun so they leave a pressure point to help keep the barreled action from moving around. I Had a tech at weatherby when I sent back a *** 257 vanguard try to tell me that they use special steel in there barrels that need pressure half way up to shoot. I asked them if they paid extra for that "special steel" that nobody else can get and he didn't know what to say. I told him the truth, that they use a pressure point to save money and he wouldn't denie it. Somehow his special steel barrel had chatter marks all through the rifling. Accuracy would go to #### after only 5 or 6 rounds until you cleaned it. they cleaned it shot a 3 shot group (at 50 fricking yards) or maybe didn't because the target was a photo copy of one not an actual target, that had 3 shots into a bit less then an inch and said that met there accuracy standard for that gun I hear guys all the time claim that you need this pressure point but ask them if theyd rest there barrel on a gun rest when shooting and they'll laugh at you. Its the same thing. Bottom line is if your gun is bedded properly and it still needs a pressure point its probably a barrel problem and its doubtful if that gun will ever be a tack driver and this doesn't matter if the barrel is as thin as a pencil or as thick as a water pipe. With that pressure point you are going to have a lot more problems with wood stock warpage and even shot groups stringing vertically when the barrel heats up. [/QUOTE]
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