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Kimber Montana .30-06
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<blockquote data-quote="kimba" data-source="post: 1028341" data-attributes="member: 85888"><p>I almost just got a kimber in 30-06 as I love their handguns. When I held it in my hands, I was disappointed with several things. The synthetic stocks are not what I expected - they all flexed and felt cheap. Not cheap like the rems and savages, but not as good as the bell and carlsons I get for my savages. I tried several models including the mt ascent. The stocks sounded hollow and just felt cheap. I also noticed that the barrel seems very whippy - to be expected in the mt ascent due to weight. The actions were not as smooth as say a win model 70 (essentially the same action). Given that you can get a m70 for around $800 it was not something that I could justify spending $1100-$1700 for. </p><p>I actually read up a lot on on the weatherby v2. I gave it a look and was very pleasantly surprised. Fit and finish was hands down better. The action was smoother and the extraction is very authoritative. For a low cost rifle, I was amazed. I did not like the made in japan part or metric threading of the barrel, but a good lathe should turn metric threads. The stock was a huge surprise. It is completely stiff - no flex and I have taken it out of the action and tried to as well. It is a little modern looking and folks might not like that part, but it fits the body well and eye aligns well with the supplied talley rings. For half the price, it was hard not to buy it. </p><p>The proof will be in the shooting, but weatherby guarentees 1 moa or less with factory crud and reviews show some groups were more like half. The v2 is heavier than some other sporters, but that is with the 24" barrel. </p><p>The point is that I was sold on going kimber till I handled one - did not get to handle the wood stocked versions. Just a personal pref thing, not bashing. </p><p>Some things to look at are the bedding and free float of the barrel, tightness of action screws. Some of these pencil barrels shoot better with a pressure point from the stock to the barrel at the end where barrel leaves the stock. Weatherby does that as well as some rem model 7's. flyers like that can be due to poor stress relieving - becomes an issue as barrel heats up which you stated it really did not. Have you measured the chamber and measured fired brass compared to unfired - I know Kimber states match barrel, but who knows. Take it apart and look at bedding to be sure someone did not have a "Monday" at the shop <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. MY money goes on poor bedding job that a skim bed might just cure or stock flex that hits barrel.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kimba, post: 1028341, member: 85888"] I almost just got a kimber in 30-06 as I love their handguns. When I held it in my hands, I was disappointed with several things. The synthetic stocks are not what I expected - they all flexed and felt cheap. Not cheap like the rems and savages, but not as good as the bell and carlsons I get for my savages. I tried several models including the mt ascent. The stocks sounded hollow and just felt cheap. I also noticed that the barrel seems very whippy - to be expected in the mt ascent due to weight. The actions were not as smooth as say a win model 70 (essentially the same action). Given that you can get a m70 for around $800 it was not something that I could justify spending $1100-$1700 for. I actually read up a lot on on the weatherby v2. I gave it a look and was very pleasantly surprised. Fit and finish was hands down better. The action was smoother and the extraction is very authoritative. For a low cost rifle, I was amazed. I did not like the made in japan part or metric threading of the barrel, but a good lathe should turn metric threads. The stock was a huge surprise. It is completely stiff - no flex and I have taken it out of the action and tried to as well. It is a little modern looking and folks might not like that part, but it fits the body well and eye aligns well with the supplied talley rings. For half the price, it was hard not to buy it. The proof will be in the shooting, but weatherby guarentees 1 moa or less with factory crud and reviews show some groups were more like half. The v2 is heavier than some other sporters, but that is with the 24" barrel. The point is that I was sold on going kimber till I handled one - did not get to handle the wood stocked versions. Just a personal pref thing, not bashing. Some things to look at are the bedding and free float of the barrel, tightness of action screws. Some of these pencil barrels shoot better with a pressure point from the stock to the barrel at the end where barrel leaves the stock. Weatherby does that as well as some rem model 7's. flyers like that can be due to poor stress relieving - becomes an issue as barrel heats up which you stated it really did not. Have you measured the chamber and measured fired brass compared to unfired - I know Kimber states match barrel, but who knows. Take it apart and look at bedding to be sure someone did not have a "Monday" at the shop :). MY money goes on poor bedding job that a skim bed might just cure or stock flex that hits barrel. [/QUOTE]
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