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<blockquote data-quote="oldpilot" data-source="post: 1787392" data-attributes="member: 87110"><p>Wolf reintroduction is not an act that returns balance or helps the environment. Nature selects species for Extinction. The Mexican Wolf and Red Wolves are extinct because their ecological niche closed. The Coyote and Bobcat then became the most successful preditor and lion's and bears prospered, and now ARA want to reintroduce a failed species??? Why? When I was a young lad our ranches supported herds over a hundred mule deer, big Horn sheep we're seen every day, and bears and lion's we're hunted any day we cut a track. A government hunter went from ranch to ranch year round would average four lion's a week. The main ranch was a 380 mother head permit and losses from predators averaged about 20. I never saw a coyote there until I was 16, and we thought it was an odd stray dog. By the time I was a sophomore in college, government hunters we're no more, coyotes were everywhere including cities, the deer populations we're in decline, the sheep we're seen only rarely, and lion's we're everywhere. The good old Forest Service cut the herd permit to 96, and calf losses to predation we're near 40 per year. So in all our collective wisdom we passed laws against leg hold traps and poisoning, the most effective control measures, and began "reintroduction" of another Apex predator. The people in Central and eastern Siberia can tell you stories about wolves and the winters of 67-68 and the mid seventies, when entire villages vanished and reindeer herds we're decimated. (Just FYI, the Soviets did away with predator control in the early sixties) Please explain to me why we need to reitroduce wolves, and get rid of deer, elk, and do away w ith the shooting sports!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="oldpilot, post: 1787392, member: 87110"] Wolf reintroduction is not an act that returns balance or helps the environment. Nature selects species for Extinction. The Mexican Wolf and Red Wolves are extinct because their ecological niche closed. The Coyote and Bobcat then became the most successful preditor and lion's and bears prospered, and now ARA want to reintroduce a failed species??? Why? When I was a young lad our ranches supported herds over a hundred mule deer, big Horn sheep we're seen every day, and bears and lion's we're hunted any day we cut a track. A government hunter went from ranch to ranch year round would average four lion's a week. The main ranch was a 380 mother head permit and losses from predators averaged about 20. I never saw a coyote there until I was 16, and we thought it was an odd stray dog. By the time I was a sophomore in college, government hunters we're no more, coyotes were everywhere including cities, the deer populations we're in decline, the sheep we're seen only rarely, and lion's we're everywhere. The good old Forest Service cut the herd permit to 96, and calf losses to predation we're near 40 per year. So in all our collective wisdom we passed laws against leg hold traps and poisoning, the most effective control measures, and began "reintroduction" of another Apex predator. The people in Central and eastern Siberia can tell you stories about wolves and the winters of 67-68 and the mid seventies, when entire villages vanished and reindeer herds we're decimated. (Just FYI, the Soviets did away with predator control in the early sixties) Please explain to me why we need to reitroduce wolves, and get rid of deer, elk, and do away w ith the shooting sports! [/QUOTE]
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