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<blockquote data-quote="*WyoWhisper*" data-source="post: 4956"><p>Jay,</p><p>you do make sense but.. this is LRH so hunting past 400 yards is what we are looking for...</p><p></p><p>In my data...</p><p></p><p>the 168 gr SMK from the 300 winny you can achieve 3200 fps fairly easily...</p><p>that will give you 1054 ft lbs at 800.. enough for deer..</p><p>I feel you need 1000 ft lbs for deer and 2000 ft lbs for Elk... just my .02</p><p></p><p>If you shoot the 190 SMK you can achieve 2900fpa fairly easily with the winny...</p><p>that gives you 860 lbs at 1k and if you can get 3000fps that will give you 938 ft lbs at 1K.</p><p>You need 3075fps ( muzzle velocity ) to get to 1000 ft lbs at 1K using 190s and my program...</p><p></p><p>now all this doesn't mean a freakin thing if you are not accurate.. I have been shooting the 308 for 2 years.. to get myself to a level where I am confident to kill out to 1K. My hunting limitation for deer with the 308 was 750 yards. So I am having a 300 RUM built as we type this to get me to 1K and beyond... </p><p></p><p>I have shot several 3" groups at 500 yards with my 308 and I havn't shot for score at 1K but I have consitiently hit volleyball sized targets throughout the 2 years at over 1K and now I feel I am ready to go further...</p><p></p><p>I shoot alone alot so if you have a buddy you will probobly get better faster....</p><p></p><p>but all I can say is practice practice paractice.. Just this past summer to now I have shot 1052 rounds....according to my notebook... that includes 70 rounds on sat at distances from 500 to 1150...</p><p></p><p>FYI....</p><p></p><p> <img src="http://images/icons/tongue.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="*WyoWhisper*, post: 4956"] Jay, you do make sense but.. this is LRH so hunting past 400 yards is what we are looking for... In my data... the 168 gr SMK from the 300 winny you can achieve 3200 fps fairly easily... that will give you 1054 ft lbs at 800.. enough for deer.. I feel you need 1000 ft lbs for deer and 2000 ft lbs for Elk... just my .02 If you shoot the 190 SMK you can achieve 2900fpa fairly easily with the winny... that gives you 860 lbs at 1k and if you can get 3000fps that will give you 938 ft lbs at 1K. You need 3075fps ( muzzle velocity ) to get to 1000 ft lbs at 1K using 190s and my program... now all this doesn't mean a freakin thing if you are not accurate.. I have been shooting the 308 for 2 years.. to get myself to a level where I am confident to kill out to 1K. My hunting limitation for deer with the 308 was 750 yards. So I am having a 300 RUM built as we type this to get me to 1K and beyond... I have shot several 3" groups at 500 yards with my 308 and I havn't shot for score at 1K but I have consitiently hit volleyball sized targets throughout the 2 years at over 1K and now I feel I am ready to go further... I shoot alone alot so if you have a buddy you will probobly get better faster.... but all I can say is practice practice paractice.. Just this past summer to now I have shot 1052 rounds....according to my notebook... that includes 70 rounds on sat at distances from 500 to 1150... FYI.... [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]
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