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<blockquote data-quote="BountyHunter" data-source="post: 40849" data-attributes="member: 12"><p>Brent</p><p></p><p>Apples and footballs! </p><p></p><p>Chambers are different specs, mag versus single shot, ammo is not loaded for single shot, or climatic conditions etc. No comparison. Tighter tolerances equals less variables and more accuracy with decreasing reliability for combat. Inverse relationship depending on your goal. </p><p></p><p>I get a real hoot out of all these "tactical guns" marketed for big bucks and by people in many cases would not know a tactical gun if it slapped them in the face. Seen to many of them come to Fort Bragg and other places with the latest "shoot to 2000 yards with 4 MOA elevation" and leave holding their butt in a sling. </p><p></p><p>Real tactical conditions will break a crow bar if at all possible.</p><p></p><p>A tactical gun has to be reliable first and reasonably accurate second.</p><p></p><p>First off I would not want a hunting or tactical gun built to the tight tolerances of gun and ammo of a BR gun. It would not be reliable!!!</p><p></p><p>A hunting/tactical gun has to be reliable first under all conditions (particularily tactical) which means sand, grit, dirt, mud, rain and snow etc and a man knows he can bet his life the gun will work. That is a very high standard and not many civilian gunsmiths have gone there. We have a lot of people building what they "market" as a tactical gun and that is OK. A local mechanic can build a NASCAR car, but that don't make it so until it runs and wins competitively on the NASCAR circuit.</p><p></p><p>Having used real tactical guns for quite a few years, I can say I would not choose to take many of those after market tactical guns into combat. They have never been tested to ensure that they will function 120% of the time and deliver "acceptable" accuracy, which is not BR accuracy. They might be great to play with in tactical competitions and such, but do not think I would bet my life on them. I am sure there will be those who say they would bet their life, knowing that they will never have to. Big difference!!!</p><p></p><p>I would leave that up to proven Army and USMC armorers who have years of experience building real combat tactical rifles that are proven in all conditions, countries, climates and keep on working. </p><p></p><p>Now before all the guys who have tacticals or build them jump up and whoop and hollar, I will simply state if you have built over 100 rifles used in real tactical combat and have proven to be 100% effective, then you have got something to talk about and my hat is off to you with the deepest respect. </p><p></p><p>If not, then you build or bought a very nice looking, great shooting gun that is someones copy of a tactical rifle and that is all, but not something I am willing to "play I bet my life on!". </p><p></p><p>Do not get me wrong, I like them, love to shoot them, but not a real tactical gun for serious life and death use in my opinion without some serious wringing out if that is what you want to do.</p><p></p><p>BH</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BountyHunter, post: 40849, member: 12"] Brent Apples and footballs! Chambers are different specs, mag versus single shot, ammo is not loaded for single shot, or climatic conditions etc. No comparison. Tighter tolerances equals less variables and more accuracy with decreasing reliability for combat. Inverse relationship depending on your goal. I get a real hoot out of all these "tactical guns" marketed for big bucks and by people in many cases would not know a tactical gun if it slapped them in the face. Seen to many of them come to Fort Bragg and other places with the latest "shoot to 2000 yards with 4 MOA elevation" and leave holding their butt in a sling. Real tactical conditions will break a crow bar if at all possible. A tactical gun has to be reliable first and reasonably accurate second. First off I would not want a hunting or tactical gun built to the tight tolerances of gun and ammo of a BR gun. It would not be reliable!!! A hunting/tactical gun has to be reliable first under all conditions (particularily tactical) which means sand, grit, dirt, mud, rain and snow etc and a man knows he can bet his life the gun will work. That is a very high standard and not many civilian gunsmiths have gone there. We have a lot of people building what they "market" as a tactical gun and that is OK. A local mechanic can build a NASCAR car, but that don't make it so until it runs and wins competitively on the NASCAR circuit. Having used real tactical guns for quite a few years, I can say I would not choose to take many of those after market tactical guns into combat. They have never been tested to ensure that they will function 120% of the time and deliver "acceptable" accuracy, which is not BR accuracy. They might be great to play with in tactical competitions and such, but do not think I would bet my life on them. I am sure there will be those who say they would bet their life, knowing that they will never have to. Big difference!!! I would leave that up to proven Army and USMC armorers who have years of experience building real combat tactical rifles that are proven in all conditions, countries, climates and keep on working. Now before all the guys who have tacticals or build them jump up and whoop and hollar, I will simply state if you have built over 100 rifles used in real tactical combat and have proven to be 100% effective, then you have got something to talk about and my hat is off to you with the deepest respect. If not, then you build or bought a very nice looking, great shooting gun that is someones copy of a tactical rifle and that is all, but not something I am willing to "play I bet my life on!". Do not get me wrong, I like them, love to shoot them, but not a real tactical gun for serious life and death use in my opinion without some serious wringing out if that is what you want to do. BH [/QUOTE]
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