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<blockquote data-quote="*WyoWhisper*" data-source="post: 40811"><p>4mesh,</p><p></p><p>Well, well I woundered when your Royalness would enter in this... First of all I love the fact you think I am lying or making myself better than I am.. or building in excuses.. I never claimed to be a world class elitest Williamsport Holier than though shooting guru... In fact if you read A LOT of my posts you'll see I am asking for evaluation and advise on my groups as I would like to compete in Tactical matches </p><p>and will take any information I can get! </p><p>Even you are invited to come out here this August and we'll see what up.. I may shoot horribly during that time but .. I'll be here with my ego and *** on the line infront of all that choose to be here so ... I don't have anything to hide..</p><p></p><p>First of all you're WRONG! FOG at 6000 ft?? Common now.. really ... Those micro bursts that came through were not only clouds but also snow showers. I was just really happy I shot that well in those conditions... But hey if you don't believe me check the weather for Wapiti, Wyoming that day!</p><p></p><p> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> "Boyd, How do you know that it would get bigger?" Well, what the hell do YOU think? If it's 4" now and you shoot more rounds, do you think it's gonna get to 3" ? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE></p><p>I guess it would have been impossible to put the other shots inside of that 4".. hell no that couldn't happen could it... Easily, or possibly more shots could have been shot into that group even vertically or horizontally that would have kept that group at 4"...</p><p></p><p> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> I think the trouble is less that anyone slights what is accomplished, just that they are difficult to impress. There are MANY people here who have done some remarkable things in all the shots they have fired over the years and when they don't fall over themselves congratulating you on what you feel is a monumental achievement, you take it personally and whine about people having no respect. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE></p><p></p><p>Yeah thats exactly what I wanted was people falling all over me, patting me on the back.. thats what I live for... My life just wouldn't be complete without the guys here telling me how good I was.. really.. I need that in my life.. cause my life outside of this board really sucks!!... What I posted was about people like you with the God Almighty BS about how that if you don't shoot 10, 20 or a gazillion rounds into a small group or do it under the 1K BR rules of Williamsport your rifle just doesn't shoot well.. and the a basis for this thread was to establish a criteria for what determines an accurate rifle... I don't have anything to prove to you or anyone else... This board is not a proving ground for me, the only proving ground for me is myself and every now and again I will post a group and usually get feed back of where there could be improvement ie: someone will ask about a condition or weather... in another thread Brent asked about weather conditons and in a respect that I hadn't considered.. thats the stuff I look for....</p><p></p><p></p><p> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> Someday, if you ever learn to listen, you will understand that if you have a gun that has a change of impact after 10 rounds, that you also have a gun that will change from day to day by the same amount or more. Until that day, we will never know if you have a great gun or not because you positivly refuse to shoot enough rounds to find out!</p><p> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE></p><p></p><p>Maybe if you ever come down off your pedestal and pay attention to what happens outside of your perfect little world you'll see that until I have a 1K BR rifle built, I don't need to shoot 10, 20 rounds in a row.. after all how many time have you hunted with a hot barrel?? And I am very unlikely to fire shot number 11 at my intended target as usually, I would imagine aftger the first few that animal would be in the next county!</p><p></p><p></p><p> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Now, you can shoot 3 shot groups on different days till hell freezes over and then blame the wind and barometer for all the change. But, you could save a lot of time and wasted bullets by shooting till the gun is hot and see if it has a problem. I am here to tell you that if it changes POI after 20 rounds, then IT WILL CHANGE DAY TO DAY even if you notice it or not. If you have a gun that repeats, then if will repeat, hot or cold. That is the simple fact that is being missed here <HR></BLOCKQUOTE></p><p></p><p>you mean to tell me all your perfectly built rifles shoot to the same spot on any given day reguardless of the weather? You must have a very special rifles and bullets...</p><p></p><p>You may have information to share... but you have your head buried in the sand as well.. I doubt very hightly that your 20 round test is the "test of all tests" How do you know that 30 or 40 rounds isn't better yet? Your test may very well be good for you but does it apply to everyone across the board? NO, not everyone shoots competition and very rarely does everyone shoot 5, 6 10, 20 shots at game animals.. the point while hunting is to shoot 1 time and hit your target... If I have a target that has a group of 20 shots in it.. It will be 20 shots taken on 20 days to see what my rifle has done.... not 20 shots one after another....</p><p></p><p> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>At least when someone says something that makes sence (not very often) I listen <HR></BLOCKQUOTE></p><p></p><p>I could have pained a better picture of you...</p><p></p><p>If you know anything at all, know that Chris of all people has never, nor will act in anyway that makes you think he knows everything.. he just isn't that way... on the other hand the way you act.. well... I don't need to say anything there...</p><p></p><p> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> I have yet to hear a way to test that works better than the repeated shooting. I mean, repeating is exactly what we are trying to test, isn't it? </p><p> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE></p><p></p><p>I have recently read some very valuable information ...</p><p></p><p>take your perfect rifle and shoot 30 rounds through it.... BUT shoot one round per day for 30 days ( at the same POA )or.. shoot 1 round ( at the same POA) after and only after your barrel is COLD.</p><p></p><p>I have concluded what Brent has.. In all your posts you seem to say that your barrel has to be hot to shoot well or that your barrel shoots better when hot? Not sure Ihave use for a rifle that shoot well hot. In all my experience and I'm not saying I have a lot, heating a barrel usually leads to POI changes? Not necessarily in all respects but in a generalization of sorts..</p><p></p><p>Hmmm.. now what other board can I go to and post my "faked" groups so I get an "atta boy" so my day starts off GOOD! I need that validation or my life is miserable...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="*WyoWhisper*, post: 40811"] 4mesh, Well, well I woundered when your Royalness would enter in this... First of all I love the fact you think I am lying or making myself better than I am.. or building in excuses.. I never claimed to be a world class elitest Williamsport Holier than though shooting guru... In fact if you read A LOT of my posts you'll see I am asking for evaluation and advise on my groups as I would like to compete in Tactical matches and will take any information I can get! Even you are invited to come out here this August and we'll see what up.. I may shoot horribly during that time but .. I'll be here with my ego and *** on the line infront of all that choose to be here so ... I don't have anything to hide.. First of all you're WRONG! FOG at 6000 ft?? Common now.. really ... Those micro bursts that came through were not only clouds but also snow showers. I was just really happy I shot that well in those conditions... But hey if you don't believe me check the weather for Wapiti, Wyoming that day! <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> "Boyd, How do you know that it would get bigger?" Well, what the hell do YOU think? If it's 4" now and you shoot more rounds, do you think it's gonna get to 3" ? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I guess it would have been impossible to put the other shots inside of that 4".. hell no that couldn't happen could it... Easily, or possibly more shots could have been shot into that group even vertically or horizontally that would have kept that group at 4"... <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> I think the trouble is less that anyone slights what is accomplished, just that they are difficult to impress. There are MANY people here who have done some remarkable things in all the shots they have fired over the years and when they don't fall over themselves congratulating you on what you feel is a monumental achievement, you take it personally and whine about people having no respect. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yeah thats exactly what I wanted was people falling all over me, patting me on the back.. thats what I live for... My life just wouldn't be complete without the guys here telling me how good I was.. really.. I need that in my life.. cause my life outside of this board really sucks!!... What I posted was about people like you with the God Almighty BS about how that if you don't shoot 10, 20 or a gazillion rounds into a small group or do it under the 1K BR rules of Williamsport your rifle just doesn't shoot well.. and the a basis for this thread was to establish a criteria for what determines an accurate rifle... I don't have anything to prove to you or anyone else... This board is not a proving ground for me, the only proving ground for me is myself and every now and again I will post a group and usually get feed back of where there could be improvement ie: someone will ask about a condition or weather... in another thread Brent asked about weather conditons and in a respect that I hadn't considered.. thats the stuff I look for.... <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> Someday, if you ever learn to listen, you will understand that if you have a gun that has a change of impact after 10 rounds, that you also have a gun that will change from day to day by the same amount or more. Until that day, we will never know if you have a great gun or not because you positivly refuse to shoot enough rounds to find out! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Maybe if you ever come down off your pedestal and pay attention to what happens outside of your perfect little world you'll see that until I have a 1K BR rifle built, I don't need to shoot 10, 20 rounds in a row.. after all how many time have you hunted with a hot barrel?? And I am very unlikely to fire shot number 11 at my intended target as usually, I would imagine aftger the first few that animal would be in the next county! <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Now, you can shoot 3 shot groups on different days till hell freezes over and then blame the wind and barometer for all the change. But, you could save a lot of time and wasted bullets by shooting till the gun is hot and see if it has a problem. I am here to tell you that if it changes POI after 20 rounds, then IT WILL CHANGE DAY TO DAY even if you notice it or not. If you have a gun that repeats, then if will repeat, hot or cold. That is the simple fact that is being missed here <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> you mean to tell me all your perfectly built rifles shoot to the same spot on any given day reguardless of the weather? You must have a very special rifles and bullets... You may have information to share... but you have your head buried in the sand as well.. I doubt very hightly that your 20 round test is the "test of all tests" How do you know that 30 or 40 rounds isn't better yet? Your test may very well be good for you but does it apply to everyone across the board? NO, not everyone shoots competition and very rarely does everyone shoot 5, 6 10, 20 shots at game animals.. the point while hunting is to shoot 1 time and hit your target... If I have a target that has a group of 20 shots in it.. It will be 20 shots taken on 20 days to see what my rifle has done.... not 20 shots one after another.... <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>At least when someone says something that makes sence (not very often) I listen <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I could have pained a better picture of you... If you know anything at all, know that Chris of all people has never, nor will act in anyway that makes you think he knows everything.. he just isn't that way... on the other hand the way you act.. well... I don't need to say anything there... <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> I have yet to hear a way to test that works better than the repeated shooting. I mean, repeating is exactly what we are trying to test, isn't it? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I have recently read some very valuable information ... take your perfect rifle and shoot 30 rounds through it.... BUT shoot one round per day for 30 days ( at the same POA )or.. shoot 1 round ( at the same POA) after and only after your barrel is COLD. I have concluded what Brent has.. In all your posts you seem to say that your barrel has to be hot to shoot well or that your barrel shoots better when hot? Not sure Ihave use for a rifle that shoot well hot. In all my experience and I'm not saying I have a lot, heating a barrel usually leads to POI changes? Not necessarily in all respects but in a generalization of sorts.. Hmmm.. now what other board can I go to and post my "faked" groups so I get an "atta boy" so my day starts off GOOD! I need that validation or my life is miserable... [/QUOTE]
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