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<blockquote data-quote="James D." data-source="post: 16668" data-attributes="member: 430"><p>IOR is a newer company and is still working on it's reputation. Yes a person has a problem with a scope, that does not mean that everyone has problems with theirs. A few might escape Quality Assurance, true. The company could have been nicer or they didn't understand the problem. Afterward customer support is the other half of a great product, while something might or might not be warranteed or if their is a delay some dealers might bend over backwards to help out. Ex: exchange for another scope while the problem one is sent in. (I'm sure that the IOR dealers that are listed here would do everything they can if they indeed ship you a bumm scope.) Since the customer deals with the dealer that sold him the scope first, the dealers have the first option of either making the customer happy by replacing a defective product or dropping a customer or two or more by gambling and send him up to a higher level... (Swift is currently at this level with their rifle scopes, over the counter warranty.) S&B, Swarovski, and Zeiss don't have the same customer support as Leupold but does that bother their owners, no.</p><p></p><p>Then some people like the features, the quality and the price. By far IOR is not the cheapest nor the most expensive, it seems to be between the mid to top end of available glass. Some people might see what they like and gamble a bit by purchasing one, I did. Before I bought my scope I inquired about a lighted reticle model and was dissapointed that one wasn't available for the power that I wanted. Here we are, a few months later and the lighted reticle 6-24x50 is soon to be out and with a 35mm tube... IOR could improve in another area by keeping their dealers in the loop.</p><p></p><p>Their is no perfect scope, Leupold has their problems but sell the scopes at their rated prices because they include lots of customer service and their competition Burris does not have the same reputation but they are improving. And of course Nightforce has their price fixing, allthough they do have some nifty features and a thicker main tube.</p><p></p><p>With my only scope experience being a Weaver T-36 and a older Redfield fixed 10x, my IOR 6-24x50 beat them hands down. Clear with a great picture, whereas my T-36 seems to have a haze and a certain halo by comparison. I have not done any tracking or repeatability tests, maybe I should drag it out and do one for ya'll and report... maybe this weekend. I don't mention the Redfield because it's like comparing apples to peanuts.</p><p></p><p>This is turning into a Ford Vs. Chevy thing.</p><p></p><p>By no means is anyone trying to convince people that this is "the" scope to get, just don't want people bashing something they don't have experience with. Nothing personal.</p><p></p><p>[ 09-11-2003: Message edited by: Sc0 ]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James D., post: 16668, member: 430"] IOR is a newer company and is still working on it's reputation. Yes a person has a problem with a scope, that does not mean that everyone has problems with theirs. A few might escape Quality Assurance, true. The company could have been nicer or they didn't understand the problem. Afterward customer support is the other half of a great product, while something might or might not be warranteed or if their is a delay some dealers might bend over backwards to help out. Ex: exchange for another scope while the problem one is sent in. (I'm sure that the IOR dealers that are listed here would do everything they can if they indeed ship you a bumm scope.) Since the customer deals with the dealer that sold him the scope first, the dealers have the first option of either making the customer happy by replacing a defective product or dropping a customer or two or more by gambling and send him up to a higher level... (Swift is currently at this level with their rifle scopes, over the counter warranty.) S&B, Swarovski, and Zeiss don't have the same customer support as Leupold but does that bother their owners, no. Then some people like the features, the quality and the price. By far IOR is not the cheapest nor the most expensive, it seems to be between the mid to top end of available glass. Some people might see what they like and gamble a bit by purchasing one, I did. Before I bought my scope I inquired about a lighted reticle model and was dissapointed that one wasn't available for the power that I wanted. Here we are, a few months later and the lighted reticle 6-24x50 is soon to be out and with a 35mm tube... IOR could improve in another area by keeping their dealers in the loop. Their is no perfect scope, Leupold has their problems but sell the scopes at their rated prices because they include lots of customer service and their competition Burris does not have the same reputation but they are improving. And of course Nightforce has their price fixing, allthough they do have some nifty features and a thicker main tube. With my only scope experience being a Weaver T-36 and a older Redfield fixed 10x, my IOR 6-24x50 beat them hands down. Clear with a great picture, whereas my T-36 seems to have a haze and a certain halo by comparison. I have not done any tracking or repeatability tests, maybe I should drag it out and do one for ya'll and report... maybe this weekend. I don't mention the Redfield because it's like comparing apples to peanuts. This is turning into a Ford Vs. Chevy thing. By no means is anyone trying to convince people that this is "the" scope to get, just don't want people bashing something they don't have experience with. Nothing personal. [ 09-11-2003: Message edited by: Sc0 ] [/QUOTE]
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