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Interesting New stuff: The MOA reticle.
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<blockquote data-quote="DMCI" data-source="post: 17231" data-attributes="member: 1730"><p><BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> So Dave, since you have the inside scoop.....How is US Optics faring in light of all their lawsuits...... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE></p><p></p><p>You know Bruce, to be absolutely honest. I don't know.</p><p></p><p>I'm just buying scopes and the quality is still first class. I do nothing more that report on the projects I'm working on. Deliveries are about the same. I haven't really seen any difference in the company or the people. </p><p></p><p>Since we last talked I also purchased Shepherd and Burris scopes. </p><p></p><p>Burris builds a very nice little 3-9 Ballistics plex that I have on my Ruger 10/22 Magnum .17 HMR, with a street price of $220. This rifle has a very accurate Lilja .17 cal. drop in barrel which makes this a totally different animal.</p><p></p><p>The Shepherd is a .22 RFM version that I put on my Browning A-bolt in .22RFM. This scope has two reticles. One reticle is similar to the Ballistic-plex with 9 inch ranging circles and the other believe or not is a MOA scale. Really cool. So all my new scopes have one form or another of MOA ranging device. <img src="http://images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>I am now having a 7mm WSM built with a 1 in 10 twist Lilja 3 groove benchrest barrel. It is on a new Winchester action with an A-5 stock and that will use my USO/HORUS scope. Trigger is a Single stage Jewel match trigger with a 1 pound pull. This rifle will use 180 Berger 7mm VLDs with a BC of almost .700 at a velocity of about 2900fps. The ballistics calculations (ATRAG for PC) indicate that this thing will be able to get to 1000 yards with only 26 minutes of come up with a 100 yard zero and be virtually unaffected by wind(in relative terms of course). This is line 7 on a Horus reticle scope. This rifle is also capable of throwing a 7mm 100 grain Sierra Varmint bullet at almost 3500 fps, although I'm told that a continuous diet of these is not recommended for optimal barrel life.</p><p></p><p>That Horus H-25 reticle also has MOA ranging on the reticle. I have the complete system with weather sensor and ATRAG Palm. I shot prairie dogs with my .260 in a measured 18 mph cross wind and we were lighting them up at 300 yards with little trouble with a computed up wind hold of 3.2moa. That 18mph wind felt like a whole gale. It took the styrofoam cover from the cooler right out of the truck and blew it half a mile away in about five seconds.</p><p></p><p>My 3.2-17x44/58 with the above MOA reticle and with the .25 moa 90 click EREK knob (which is a new design) will go on a .17 HMR Cooper rifle, which is an extraordinarily accurate little rifle. I am having a custom picatinny extended rail built for that rifle as well. This new nob will get me 22 moa of adjustment which is more than enough to get the little .17 cal 17 grain pill to 300 yards which is about the practical limit for this cartridge in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>Now with respect to lawsuits, what they tell me, and this is the "inside stuff" is "our attorneys have advised us to not to comment on current litigation". Now you have been around enough to know that those comments are the standard answers. So the inside stuff that I have is the same as you, except you may know more from the other side.</p><p></p><p>PS: As you know, this post is representative of the kind of "horrendous stuff" that got me thrown off of Snipershide and Snipersparadise. <img src="http://images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>[ 11-04-2003: Message edited by: DMCI ]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DMCI, post: 17231, member: 1730"] <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> So Dave, since you have the inside scoop.....How is US Optics faring in light of all their lawsuits...... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You know Bruce, to be absolutely honest. I don't know. I'm just buying scopes and the quality is still first class. I do nothing more that report on the projects I'm working on. Deliveries are about the same. I haven't really seen any difference in the company or the people. Since we last talked I also purchased Shepherd and Burris scopes. Burris builds a very nice little 3-9 Ballistics plex that I have on my Ruger 10/22 Magnum .17 HMR, with a street price of $220. This rifle has a very accurate Lilja .17 cal. drop in barrel which makes this a totally different animal. The Shepherd is a .22 RFM version that I put on my Browning A-bolt in .22RFM. This scope has two reticles. One reticle is similar to the Ballistic-plex with 9 inch ranging circles and the other believe or not is a MOA scale. Really cool. So all my new scopes have one form or another of MOA ranging device. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] I am now having a 7mm WSM built with a 1 in 10 twist Lilja 3 groove benchrest barrel. It is on a new Winchester action with an A-5 stock and that will use my USO/HORUS scope. Trigger is a Single stage Jewel match trigger with a 1 pound pull. This rifle will use 180 Berger 7mm VLDs with a BC of almost .700 at a velocity of about 2900fps. The ballistics calculations (ATRAG for PC) indicate that this thing will be able to get to 1000 yards with only 26 minutes of come up with a 100 yard zero and be virtually unaffected by wind(in relative terms of course). This is line 7 on a Horus reticle scope. This rifle is also capable of throwing a 7mm 100 grain Sierra Varmint bullet at almost 3500 fps, although I'm told that a continuous diet of these is not recommended for optimal barrel life. That Horus H-25 reticle also has MOA ranging on the reticle. I have the complete system with weather sensor and ATRAG Palm. I shot prairie dogs with my .260 in a measured 18 mph cross wind and we were lighting them up at 300 yards with little trouble with a computed up wind hold of 3.2moa. That 18mph wind felt like a whole gale. It took the styrofoam cover from the cooler right out of the truck and blew it half a mile away in about five seconds. My 3.2-17x44/58 with the above MOA reticle and with the .25 moa 90 click EREK knob (which is a new design) will go on a .17 HMR Cooper rifle, which is an extraordinarily accurate little rifle. I am having a custom picatinny extended rail built for that rifle as well. This new nob will get me 22 moa of adjustment which is more than enough to get the little .17 cal 17 grain pill to 300 yards which is about the practical limit for this cartridge in my opinion. Now with respect to lawsuits, what they tell me, and this is the "inside stuff" is "our attorneys have advised us to not to comment on current litigation". Now you have been around enough to know that those comments are the standard answers. So the inside stuff that I have is the same as you, except you may know more from the other side. PS: As you know, this post is representative of the kind of "horrendous stuff" that got me thrown off of Snipershide and Snipersparadise. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] [ 11-04-2003: Message edited by: DMCI ] [/QUOTE]
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