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<blockquote data-quote="mntnflyr4fun" data-source="post: 2698295" data-attributes="member: 29147"><p>Sounds like you made a great decision, congratulations on your success, need more sportsman like yourself. </p><p>Unfortunately too many would have taken the 450 shot with a .223 or a CM or some such. I am not against long range hunting, I do it myself. What I am against is hunters thinking that they need light/fast/flat/no recoil and so are moving to under powered calibers for their LR shooting on big game. (as noted by OP, .308 at 900yds)</p><p></p><p>In todays LR game, I see it waaaay differently than most. A few years ago, acquiring a high quality tactical type scope was unaffordable for the masses. Flat shooting calibers were needed along with what it took to get there, light bullets and tons of speed included......</p><p></p><p>Today, things have changed so dramatically in the Optics world making inexpensive high quality MOA/MIL reticles and turrets very affordable. I recently purchased a new scope with FFP, 4x-16x, MOA reticle, multi-turn turrets and zero stop for $400 and it is fully fog/waterproof with a lifetime warranty, tracks perfectly and handles 338WM recoil with no problem.</p><p></p><p>Now that opens up the best situation for LR DRT hunting. Who cares what the drop is? Crank a turret or elevate to reticle hash and you can let fly a 250gr or 300gr or?? ....... bullet, it will arc like a WWII 16" gun on a battleship, but when it arrives, DEAD MEAT. </p><p>A heavy, well designed large cal. hunting bullet will kill fast with almost no loss of meat from high speed hydrostatic fragmenting bullets that blow whole shoulders off of game. </p><p></p><p>I am a meat hunter and will take a spike as fast as a 5pt if thats the shot......I don't care about bragging rights, I love vension , respect the animal and hate leaving it for the scavengers, the last bull I took at just under 500yds took a 250 GrandSlam thru and thru, dropped like a rock and when all the cutting was done I had less than 2.5lbs of lost meat.</p><p></p><p>250/265gr,300gr + bullets etc. etc. etc..... unless you can't handle recoil of a gun that can put DRT reliably on an elk, (then you may be not hunting the right size game) as there is no excuse or justification I can think of for using a min. cal. rifle to try and hit elk or any other trophy game at LR....IMHO</p><p></p><p>And THANK YOU to all the guides and outfitters who are punching the tag on wounded animals shot /lost by well heeled but under qualified/gunned shooters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mntnflyr4fun, post: 2698295, member: 29147"] Sounds like you made a great decision, congratulations on your success, need more sportsman like yourself. Unfortunately too many would have taken the 450 shot with a .223 or a CM or some such. I am not against long range hunting, I do it myself. What I am against is hunters thinking that they need light/fast/flat/no recoil and so are moving to under powered calibers for their LR shooting on big game. (as noted by OP, .308 at 900yds) In todays LR game, I see it waaaay differently than most. A few years ago, acquiring a high quality tactical type scope was unaffordable for the masses. Flat shooting calibers were needed along with what it took to get there, light bullets and tons of speed included...... Today, things have changed so dramatically in the Optics world making inexpensive high quality MOA/MIL reticles and turrets very affordable. I recently purchased a new scope with FFP, 4x-16x, MOA reticle, multi-turn turrets and zero stop for $400 and it is fully fog/waterproof with a lifetime warranty, tracks perfectly and handles 338WM recoil with no problem. Now that opens up the best situation for LR DRT hunting. Who cares what the drop is? Crank a turret or elevate to reticle hash and you can let fly a 250gr or 300gr or?? ....... bullet, it will arc like a WWII 16" gun on a battleship, but when it arrives, DEAD MEAT. A heavy, well designed large cal. hunting bullet will kill fast with almost no loss of meat from high speed hydrostatic fragmenting bullets that blow whole shoulders off of game. I am a meat hunter and will take a spike as fast as a 5pt if thats the shot......I don't care about bragging rights, I love vension , respect the animal and hate leaving it for the scavengers, the last bull I took at just under 500yds took a 250 GrandSlam thru and thru, dropped like a rock and when all the cutting was done I had less than 2.5lbs of lost meat. 250/265gr,300gr + bullets etc. etc. etc..... unless you can't handle recoil of a gun that can put DRT reliably on an elk, (then you may be not hunting the right size game) as there is no excuse or justification I can think of for using a min. cal. rifle to try and hit elk or any other trophy game at LR....IMHO And THANK YOU to all the guides and outfitters who are punching the tag on wounded animals shot /lost by well heeled but under qualified/gunned shooters. [/QUOTE]
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