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<blockquote data-quote="nicholasjohn" data-source="post: 1731276" data-attributes="member: 109113"><p>I don't think that the 270 is recoiling enough less than the 7mm to make it that much more comfortable for you to shoot. It's still a full-sized rifle cartridge, and there are other factors involved here. Here's another consideration for you : STOCK FIT. You mentioned that you are a big dude - well, I am not. But I have arms like a chimp, and I don't have a big, thick chest. So, I need a longer butt stock on my rifles to be able to handle recoil. This was pointed out to me years ago, by an old-time rifle builder. He explained to me that when I bring a rifle to my shoulder, my arms are bent at an acute angle that puts me at a leverage disadvantage. In this state, I can't use effectively use my hands & arms to absorb recoil. That puts ALL the recoil on my face and shoulder. </p><p></p><p>When I starting using a longer rifle stock, felt recoil was significantly less. That's because I was able to use my hands to take up some of the recoil, and it was not all on my face and shoulder. Another thing that I've found is that the newer recoil pads, most of which are made of sorbathane, work better than the old rubber pads. I've been using a Kick-Eez pad for several years, and it made a noticeable difference. I like it a lot. Also, trap shooters often employ inertia devices in their stocks ( look up the Dead Mule ) to slow down the jolt of the recoil. That works, too. ( These devices also add some weight to the gun, which counts for a lot in reducing felt recoil.) </p><p></p><p>Lastly, I'd like to add that maybe the reason you like the Tikka 270 better is because the shape of the stock fits you better than the one on the 7mm. If a rifle stock has a sharp comb, it will make you want to shoot it less. The stocks on the 700 Remingtons were like this. They made my face hurt. My buddy's 30-06 was terrible in that regard. Another buddy had a 300 magnum ( another Remington BDL ) which I shot ONCE. I wasn't right for about a week. He did just fine with it, but he has a chubby face and I don't. If the comb is too low for your face, you will not be able to get your cheek down on the stock and still see through the scope. A strap-on cheek pad may help with this. Lots of guys use these. It takes care of the problem of the stock getting a running start before it hits your cheek in recoil, which makes it feel like a much harder hit to the shooter. I would look into a few of these things if you want to enjoy shooting the 7mm. Or, just keep knocking down your animals with the 270, and don't worry about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nicholasjohn, post: 1731276, member: 109113"] I don't think that the 270 is recoiling enough less than the 7mm to make it that much more comfortable for you to shoot. It's still a full-sized rifle cartridge, and there are other factors involved here. Here's another consideration for you : STOCK FIT. You mentioned that you are a big dude - well, I am not. But I have arms like a chimp, and I don't have a big, thick chest. So, I need a longer butt stock on my rifles to be able to handle recoil. This was pointed out to me years ago, by an old-time rifle builder. He explained to me that when I bring a rifle to my shoulder, my arms are bent at an acute angle that puts me at a leverage disadvantage. In this state, I can't use effectively use my hands & arms to absorb recoil. That puts ALL the recoil on my face and shoulder. When I starting using a longer rifle stock, felt recoil was significantly less. That's because I was able to use my hands to take up some of the recoil, and it was not all on my face and shoulder. Another thing that I've found is that the newer recoil pads, most of which are made of sorbathane, work better than the old rubber pads. I've been using a Kick-Eez pad for several years, and it made a noticeable difference. I like it a lot. Also, trap shooters often employ inertia devices in their stocks ( look up the Dead Mule ) to slow down the jolt of the recoil. That works, too. ( These devices also add some weight to the gun, which counts for a lot in reducing felt recoil.) Lastly, I'd like to add that maybe the reason you like the Tikka 270 better is because the shape of the stock fits you better than the one on the 7mm. If a rifle stock has a sharp comb, it will make you want to shoot it less. The stocks on the 700 Remingtons were like this. They made my face hurt. My buddy's 30-06 was terrible in that regard. Another buddy had a 300 magnum ( another Remington BDL ) which I shot ONCE. I wasn't right for about a week. He did just fine with it, but he has a chubby face and I don't. If the comb is too low for your face, you will not be able to get your cheek down on the stock and still see through the scope. A strap-on cheek pad may help with this. Lots of guys use these. It takes care of the problem of the stock getting a running start before it hits your cheek in recoil, which makes it feel like a much harder hit to the shooter. I would look into a few of these things if you want to enjoy shooting the 7mm. Or, just keep knocking down your animals with the 270, and don't worry about it. [/QUOTE]
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