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I want a legit argument against an old trusted cartridge
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<blockquote data-quote="Badgerclaw" data-source="post: 1725300" data-attributes="member: 101780"><p>I would agree with a few points, but I would argue one. I've worked for an outfitter in Wyoming, plus between my buddies and I, I've seen more elk die than I can count. Elk are very tough. This leads people to believe they need a 50 bmg to kill them. It comes from people making poor shots, using poor bullets/ammunition, or shooting farther than their ability. Of all the ultra mags, 338, 300, even 7mm cartridges, the fastest I've seen an elk die (not DROP from a spine shot, but actually DIE) was a double lung shot, no bone hit, from a 6.5x284 with a SST bullet at 300 yards.</p><p></p><p>Point being, the "superior preformance" cartridges you mentioned, are just more expensive and 1-200 fps faster. Nothing that truly makes a difference in putting meat on the ground. It's just harder on the wallet, making that elk tag that much more expensive. </p><p></p><p>I haven't shot a whitetail so I wouldn't know, but the 7 mag is not overkill for the big bodied mule deer in my neck of the mountains. </p><p></p><p>The other way to word "too big to be small but to small to be big" can also be worded "not too small, not to big...just right."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Badgerclaw, post: 1725300, member: 101780"] I would agree with a few points, but I would argue one. I've worked for an outfitter in Wyoming, plus between my buddies and I, I've seen more elk die than I can count. Elk are very tough. This leads people to believe they need a 50 bmg to kill them. It comes from people making poor shots, using poor bullets/ammunition, or shooting farther than their ability. Of all the ultra mags, 338, 300, even 7mm cartridges, the fastest I've seen an elk die (not DROP from a spine shot, but actually DIE) was a double lung shot, no bone hit, from a 6.5x284 with a SST bullet at 300 yards. Point being, the "superior preformance" cartridges you mentioned, are just more expensive and 1-200 fps faster. Nothing that truly makes a difference in putting meat on the ground. It's just harder on the wallet, making that elk tag that much more expensive. I haven't shot a whitetail so I wouldn't know, but the 7 mag is not overkill for the big bodied mule deer in my neck of the mountains. The other way to word "too big to be small but to small to be big" can also be worded "not too small, not to big...just right." [/QUOTE]
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