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<blockquote data-quote="Badgerclaw" data-source="post: 1725176" data-attributes="member: 101780"><p>Thanks for the responses everyone. I'm trying to get caught up, I've read through the first few pages and I noticed a few topics coming up. 1, recoil or the lack thereof. 2, the 300 win mag is mentioned a lot in comparison. 3, using multiple calibers and picking the best one for the situation. </p><p></p><p>First recoil, I appreciate the humor in one of the post about being a sissy, nether the 7 or 300 kick that bad. I know some people who shoot some big @s guns without brakes. I used to have a 338 ultra mag in a 7lb rifle and I could still shoot it half moa. But I've yet to meet a single person who is impervious to recoil. Take someone who is shooting 1/4 inch groups with a rifle that kicks like a mule and give that same person a 6ppc bench gun, they will shoot better with the lighter recoil (assuming both rifles have equal accuracy potential). The 7mm with a brake kicks less than the ultra mag rifles with the same brake in the same weight rifle.</p><p></p><p>2. The 300 win mag. I had one and loved it but like I said, I haven't seen a critter drop faster with one or the other. Yes we can get into ft-lbs of energy, bullet diameter argument... but I think it's all about shot placement/ bullet construction. And as far as shot placement the 7mm (with the majority of load combinations) will fight wind better and shoot flatter than the 300. The 300 win is a fantastic cartridge so I'm not bashing, just making an argument for the 7.</p><p></p><p>3. Using the best caliber for the task. I'll admit, I like a fur friendly rifle for my coyotes. I use a 204 ruger. But for everything else, I could make a load with 100 gr varmint bullets, a 160 to 168 gr target load for completion, and a 160-195 bullet still with enough velocity to take any animal I want. That can't be said for every caliber out there. Yes I have a 6mm creedmoor I will use for targets, and a 338 lapua would probably be better for African game, but if I had to use one caliber for the rest of my life... I could make a coyote load, shoot PRS, and kill anything in north America and be competitive in all categories. </p><p></p><p>I'm trying to remember the name of the book, but someone traveled the world shooting everything from Alaskan bears to African game with a 220 swift... it was an eye opener as to "pick the right bullet and put it in the right spot". I'd say the 7 mag has more power than a 220 swift</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Badgerclaw, post: 1725176, member: 101780"] Thanks for the responses everyone. I'm trying to get caught up, I've read through the first few pages and I noticed a few topics coming up. 1, recoil or the lack thereof. 2, the 300 win mag is mentioned a lot in comparison. 3, using multiple calibers and picking the best one for the situation. First recoil, I appreciate the humor in one of the post about being a sissy, nether the 7 or 300 kick that bad. I know some people who shoot some big @s guns without brakes. I used to have a 338 ultra mag in a 7lb rifle and I could still shoot it half moa. But I've yet to meet a single person who is impervious to recoil. Take someone who is shooting 1/4 inch groups with a rifle that kicks like a mule and give that same person a 6ppc bench gun, they will shoot better with the lighter recoil (assuming both rifles have equal accuracy potential). The 7mm with a brake kicks less than the ultra mag rifles with the same brake in the same weight rifle. 2. The 300 win mag. I had one and loved it but like I said, I haven't seen a critter drop faster with one or the other. Yes we can get into ft-lbs of energy, bullet diameter argument... but I think it's all about shot placement/ bullet construction. And as far as shot placement the 7mm (with the majority of load combinations) will fight wind better and shoot flatter than the 300. The 300 win is a fantastic cartridge so I'm not bashing, just making an argument for the 7. 3. Using the best caliber for the task. I'll admit, I like a fur friendly rifle for my coyotes. I use a 204 ruger. But for everything else, I could make a load with 100 gr varmint bullets, a 160 to 168 gr target load for completion, and a 160-195 bullet still with enough velocity to take any animal I want. That can't be said for every caliber out there. Yes I have a 6mm creedmoor I will use for targets, and a 338 lapua would probably be better for African game, but if I had to use one caliber for the rest of my life... I could make a coyote load, shoot PRS, and kill anything in north America and be competitive in all categories. I'm trying to remember the name of the book, but someone traveled the world shooting everything from Alaskan bears to African game with a 220 swift... it was an eye opener as to "pick the right bullet and put it in the right spot". I'd say the 7 mag has more power than a 220 swift [/QUOTE]
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