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<blockquote data-quote="SWHandldr" data-source="post: 2744066" data-attributes="member: 114858">Amen!&nbsp; A factory rifle (my definition: anything not built, tested &amp; tuned by a gunsmith) that shoots to its )full potential &#039;out of the box&#039; is the exception rather than the rule.&nbsp; It happens and it means we got a &quot;good &#039;un.&quot; Most factory rifles, even from highly-regarded mfr&#039;s, can shoot smaller groups with a little personal attention - if the owner knows what they&#039;re doing.&nbsp; (How do ya get to Carnegie Hall?&nbsp; PRACTICE.)Some combination of bedding, checking &amp; relieving the barrel channel if needed, careful polishing &amp; lightning the trigger, maybe recrowning the muzzle can usually do it.&nbsp; If you don&#039;t know how (especially the last two) find a smith who knows what he&#039;s doing &amp; pay him.&nbsp; I taught myself cuz I had two daughters in college at the same time; greenbacks were scarce. A hunting gun (sporter weight barrel, six to 10 lbs all up, depending on caliber) consistently placing three rounds under an inch from a 100 yard bench, starting from a cold bore is likely NOT the limiting factor out to 3 to 500 yards.&nbsp; Longer range, better to test at 300 yards or more - and shooter ability, calling wind, a decent rangefinder and the kind of real-word rest one can manage combine to make the firearm&#039;s inherent accuracy less important.&nbsp; Unless it&#039;s minute of pie plate at 100 yards.&nbsp; Also, it&#039;s hard to imagine anyone interested in &quot;across the canyon&quot; shots, where one cannot get closer, not testing their ammo before leaving (and confirming accuracy on arrival).&nbsp; Premium factory or good handloads (a whole different can of worms) are likely to provide more precision &amp; accuracy than a box of basic hunting loads from a big-box store (though sometimes we get lucky).&nbsp; We all want a hunting rifle that isn&#039;t the limiting factor.&nbsp; Unless a hunter has honed their own skills (like the OP, with a thousand yard range out the back door) it rarely is.&nbsp; <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😉" title="Winking face&nbsp; &nbsp; :wink:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" data-shortname=":wink:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="SWHandldr, post: 2744066, member: 114858"] Amen! A factory rifle (my definition: anything not built, tested & tuned by a gunsmith) that shoots to its )full potential 'out of the box' is the exception rather than the rule. It happens and it means we got a "good 'un." Most factory rifles, even from highly-regarded mfr's, can shoot smaller groups with a little personal attention - if the owner knows what they're doing. (How do ya get to Carnegie Hall? PRACTICE.) Some combination of bedding, checking & relieving the barrel channel if needed, [I]careful [/I]polishing & lightning the trigger, maybe recrowning the muzzle can usually do it. If you don't know how (especially the last two) [B]find a smith who knows what he's doing & pay him[/B]. I taught myself cuz I had two daughters in college at the same time; greenbacks were scarce. A hunting gun (sporter weight barrel, six to 10 lbs all up, depending on caliber) consistently placing three rounds under an inch from a 100 yard bench, starting from a cold bore is likely NOT the limiting factor out to 3 to 500 yards. Longer range, better to test at 300 yards or more - and shooter ability, calling wind, a decent rangefinder and the kind of real-word rest one can manage combine to make the firearm's inherent accuracy less important. Unless it's minute of pie plate at 100 yards. Also, it's hard to imagine anyone interested in "across the canyon" shots, where one cannot get closer, not testing their ammo before leaving (and confirming accuracy on arrival). Premium factory or good handloads (a whole different can of worms) are likely to provide more precision & accuracy than a box of basic hunting loads from a big-box store (though sometimes we get lucky). We all want a hunting rifle that isn't the limiting factor. Unless a hunter has honed their own skills (like the OP, with a thousand yard range out the back door) it rarely is. 😉 [/QUOTE]

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