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How often do you bump the shoulder back?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mikecr" data-source="post: 1138432" data-attributes="member: 1521"><p>We have had to conversation before & you still don't listen to the answers.</p><p></p><p>Jim makes dies based off fired brass we send him. We don't send our chambers. I send him over-pressure brass that predictably leads to custom body dies that squeeze without sizing. Write that down, think about it, and try to remember it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>My accuracy load is 47.4gr IMR4350 behind 139Laps 8thou off. The H20 capacity of my 6.5wssm matches that of the 260AI, and my muzzle velocity is ~3025fps w/28" barrel. QuickLoad put's this right at SAAMI max(65Kpsi). Anyone w/QL here can run that & see for themselves.</p><p>SAAMI max is different than MyMax. I can run higher pressures, and the brass I sent to JLC provided MVs over 3200fps. By that point, body sizing would be required.</p><p>I have noticed that ~57Kpsi by QL seems a rough reference for sizing requirements with less improved cartridges. And I realize I once reported a bit less predicted pressure with my 6.5wssm(by mistake). But I'm pretty confident in numbers I've posted many times since. 57Kpsi is not 10% below SAAMI max with hunting capacity cartridges. It's plenty, and max loads in your books are below this.</p><p> Where the hell are you getting this? I don't FL size anything.</p><p>The last time I FL sized was in a reloading class ~40yrs ago.</p><p>Since then I partial NS'd with FL dies, until bushing dies hit the scene.</p><p>Do YOU even know what FL sizing is?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I provide info in contrast to so much posted with no basis at all(like all LR shooters do it).</p><p>I built that 6.5wssm as fitted purely for this testing. To find some truths behind a different reference than gun rags puke out..</p><p>It's true a 30-06 will have to be FL sized. It's a horrible design. And I don't see any in IBS equipment lists. So folks, don't even bother with NS only for anything over 100yrs old.</p><p>But with a newer cartridge, like a ~6.5x47L, a fitted chamber and rational loads behind 130gr bullets, you could partial NS and shoulder bump only. Go ahead, just for the learning, and nothing to lose.</p><p>Then, when you read that a LR competitor says that FL sizing is a must, you can decide if that's actually true, unqualified, or merely another trend roundy roundy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mikecr, post: 1138432, member: 1521"] We have had to conversation before & you still don't listen to the answers. Jim makes dies based off fired brass we send him. We don't send our chambers. I send him over-pressure brass that predictably leads to custom body dies that squeeze without sizing. Write that down, think about it, and try to remember it. My accuracy load is 47.4gr IMR4350 behind 139Laps 8thou off. The H20 capacity of my 6.5wssm matches that of the 260AI, and my muzzle velocity is ~3025fps w/28" barrel. QuickLoad put's this right at SAAMI max(65Kpsi). Anyone w/QL here can run that & see for themselves. SAAMI max is different than MyMax. I can run higher pressures, and the brass I sent to JLC provided MVs over 3200fps. By that point, body sizing would be required. I have noticed that ~57Kpsi by QL seems a rough reference for sizing requirements with less improved cartridges. And I realize I once reported a bit less predicted pressure with my 6.5wssm(by mistake). But I'm pretty confident in numbers I've posted many times since. 57Kpsi is not 10% below SAAMI max with hunting capacity cartridges. It's plenty, and max loads in your books are below this. Where the hell are you getting this? I don't FL size anything. The last time I FL sized was in a reloading class ~40yrs ago. Since then I partial NS'd with FL dies, until bushing dies hit the scene. Do YOU even know what FL sizing is? I provide info in contrast to so much posted with no basis at all(like all LR shooters do it). I built that 6.5wssm as fitted purely for this testing. To find some truths behind a different reference than gun rags puke out.. It's true a 30-06 will have to be FL sized. It's a horrible design. And I don't see any in IBS equipment lists. So folks, don't even bother with NS only for anything over 100yrs old. But with a newer cartridge, like a ~6.5x47L, a fitted chamber and rational loads behind 130gr bullets, you could partial NS and shoulder bump only. Go ahead, just for the learning, and nothing to lose. Then, when you read that a LR competitor says that FL sizing is a must, you can decide if that's actually true, unqualified, or merely another trend roundy roundy. [/QUOTE]
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