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Hornady 4DOF Ballistic Program
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<blockquote data-quote="mitch260" data-source="post: 1228466" data-attributes="member: 53720"><p>I agree Aaron, but this also brings up a big point of balance. You can't judge a solver if you don't do everything right. What we did, was to get every input a accurate as we could. We used a Custom Drag curve measured out of our rifles and bullets. In other words, we negated the possibility of anomalies due to lot variance or possible rifle anomalies. What was proven in this example was that our solver was SPOT ON and our method of data collection is more than accurate enough to put first rounds on target out to 2500 yards.</p><p></p><p>A solver needs to be user friendly, but a solver will only be accurate if you allow the user to input all of the variable required. This fact means that a solver can only be so simple, before we have to rely on the user to take the time to properly use it. Again, any accurate solver will face the same problem.</p><p></p><p>Is our solver susceptible to bullet lot variation? For sure, but the Hornady solver would be equally susceptible.</p><p></p><p>So what are you really hoping to gain with the radar?</p><p></p><p>Also, in reference to the comment referring to the bottom 5 or ten shooter. There were a number of guys who had equipment/load issues that resulted in very few, if any hits at the closest targets. But, there were a number of guys using printed data from various online solvers or just DOPE from shooting. I can't offer specifics on the placing of these individuals, but I have attached the final score sheet for guys to examine the spread of the scores.</p><p></p><p>Better shooting products are developed and tested on the range. Personally, knowing the engineer that developed the product is also a world class shooter is a good thing. Our time on the range definitely doesn't detract from our products, if that is what you were trying to get at. I think most would agree that our active position in the shooting world benefits our product development.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mitch260, post: 1228466, member: 53720"] I agree Aaron, but this also brings up a big point of balance. You can't judge a solver if you don't do everything right. What we did, was to get every input a accurate as we could. We used a Custom Drag curve measured out of our rifles and bullets. In other words, we negated the possibility of anomalies due to lot variance or possible rifle anomalies. What was proven in this example was that our solver was SPOT ON and our method of data collection is more than accurate enough to put first rounds on target out to 2500 yards. A solver needs to be user friendly, but a solver will only be accurate if you allow the user to input all of the variable required. This fact means that a solver can only be so simple, before we have to rely on the user to take the time to properly use it. Again, any accurate solver will face the same problem. Is our solver susceptible to bullet lot variation? For sure, but the Hornady solver would be equally susceptible. So what are you really hoping to gain with the radar? Also, in reference to the comment referring to the bottom 5 or ten shooter. There were a number of guys who had equipment/load issues that resulted in very few, if any hits at the closest targets. But, there were a number of guys using printed data from various online solvers or just DOPE from shooting. I can't offer specifics on the placing of these individuals, but I have attached the final score sheet for guys to examine the spread of the scores. Better shooting products are developed and tested on the range. Personally, knowing the engineer that developed the product is also a world class shooter is a good thing. Our time on the range definitely doesn't detract from our products, if that is what you were trying to get at. I think most would agree that our active position in the shooting world benefits our product development. [/QUOTE]
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