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<blockquote data-quote="Alibiiv" data-source="post: 2335492" data-attributes="member: 69192"><p>My son and I hunt together. We don't shoot Barnes bullets all year long because they are too expensive. We also use them in the 30-06's and the 35 Whelens so they're not a cheap date at the range if that's all we shoot. When we are just plinking we will use something a lot less expensive. The folks at Hammer were really good to me this year and they did get some of their Hammer Hunter bullets out to me for the 35 Whelen. It was a last minute change for me, I loaded 50 up and took them out but did not get a chance to use them. We hunt with either the Whelen or the 45-70. We both anchored two nice bear this year, both with the 45-70s, total pass-through shots, no difficulty finding a blood trail or.....the bear!! We had a third hunter with us this year, he shot a 362lb black bear with the Whelen (Barnes TSX, 225gr bullet), that bear went about 30 feet from where he shot it.</p><p></p><p>When you wrote about being a skinflint, my thoughts for me are that this is a hunt for us (son/myself) to make memories that will last long after I am gone; and in couple of weeks I'll have orbited the sun 75 times. How much is that worth????? Also if you have a trophy of a lifetime, it comes out, you take the shot and then cannot find the bear due to a poor blood trail, and......"IF" <em><u>you have the opportunity to do a retake on that bear of a lifetime</u></em>, would you be shooting it with a $1.00 or a $2.50 bullet??? You will have and I have had people tell me that black bear are easy to kill, this had NOT been my experience. The bear that I shot this year was 225lb bear from about 60 yards away with the 45-70. I hunt a ground blind so my shots are from shoulder to shoulder pass-throughs. Before I could recover from the recoil this bear was no where to be found. I heard it crashing through the woods, it seemed like it was traveling forever before I stopped hearing the crashing. All the time that I heard this bear going into the Maine jungle I am say, "Come on you SOB stop running, stop running!!!" I finally heard the crashing stop and then the bear bawled for a minute and I heard nothing so I knew he was down. That bear ran about 30-40 yards before it died. When it was dressed out a look at the heart looked like a hand grenade had gone off inside of it, yet.....that bear managed a 30-40 yard sprint through thick woods and brush. It took us at least an hour to drag him back to where he was shot, but.....there was no difficulty finding that bear due to the through-and-though shot and large entry/exit holes. I would like to say that I am not an expert, what I have written here is based upon my experience black bear hunting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alibiiv, post: 2335492, member: 69192"] My son and I hunt together. We don't shoot Barnes bullets all year long because they are too expensive. We also use them in the 30-06's and the 35 Whelens so they're not a cheap date at the range if that's all we shoot. When we are just plinking we will use something a lot less expensive. The folks at Hammer were really good to me this year and they did get some of their Hammer Hunter bullets out to me for the 35 Whelen. It was a last minute change for me, I loaded 50 up and took them out but did not get a chance to use them. We hunt with either the Whelen or the 45-70. We both anchored two nice bear this year, both with the 45-70s, total pass-through shots, no difficulty finding a blood trail or.....the bear!! We had a third hunter with us this year, he shot a 362lb black bear with the Whelen (Barnes TSX, 225gr bullet), that bear went about 30 feet from where he shot it. When you wrote about being a skinflint, my thoughts for me are that this is a hunt for us (son/myself) to make memories that will last long after I am gone; and in couple of weeks I'll have orbited the sun 75 times. How much is that worth????? Also if you have a trophy of a lifetime, it comes out, you take the shot and then cannot find the bear due to a poor blood trail, and......"IF" [I][U]you have the opportunity to do a retake on that bear of a lifetime[/U][/I], would you be shooting it with a $1.00 or a $2.50 bullet??? You will have and I have had people tell me that black bear are easy to kill, this had NOT been my experience. The bear that I shot this year was 225lb bear from about 60 yards away with the 45-70. I hunt a ground blind so my shots are from shoulder to shoulder pass-throughs. Before I could recover from the recoil this bear was no where to be found. I heard it crashing through the woods, it seemed like it was traveling forever before I stopped hearing the crashing. All the time that I heard this bear going into the Maine jungle I am say, "Come on you SOB stop running, stop running!!!" I finally heard the crashing stop and then the bear bawled for a minute and I heard nothing so I knew he was down. That bear ran about 30-40 yards before it died. When it was dressed out a look at the heart looked like a hand grenade had gone off inside of it, yet.....that bear managed a 30-40 yard sprint through thick woods and brush. It took us at least an hour to drag him back to where he was shot, but.....there was no difficulty finding that bear due to the through-and-though shot and large entry/exit holes. I would like to say that I am not an expert, what I have written here is based upon my experience black bear hunting. [/QUOTE]
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