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<blockquote data-quote="Bravo 4" data-source="post: 1519098" data-attributes="member: 8873"><p>I have a feeling that the gain twist might help, but also think the problem (if that's what you want to call it) is that some of the new lathe turned bullets are made from such a soft alloy. While it's great for terminal performance on game it may be a problem when driven hard velocity wise, maybe the bullets are having trouble getting "traction" in the rifling. How "soft" does a bullet have to be to be rated to expand down to 13/14/1500 fps? Plus a 415 grain bullet @ 2900 FPS will not penetrate a 3/8" ar500 plate at 100 yards, just splatters with a small divot where as a WAAYYY smaller Barnes bullet near that velocity will punch a hole right through.</p><p>The long soft alloy bullets may have a certain velocity threshold they can stand when ran through the tighter twists needed for stabilization...? Maybe not enough bearing surface for such, maybe more aggressive (deeper/taller/whatever you want to call it) rifling?</p><p>My .408 shot the Cutting Edge MTH well past 2,000 yards and was scary accurate, this was at 2900 fps mentioned above. I was one of those that had trouble with some of the .375 Hammers, awesome groups up close but something happened way out. The good news is that Steve is all over it!</p><p>Don't know how many I have left, but if anyone is interested in trying them in a lesser cartridge than my Snipetac you are welcome to them (if it's enough to even mess with).</p><p></p><p>Added: Steve I see you are posting, what did you come up with on this? Unless it's a "secret", then you can just text or call me. I have the clearance!<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bravo 4, post: 1519098, member: 8873"] I have a feeling that the gain twist might help, but also think the problem (if that’s what you want to call it) is that some of the new lathe turned bullets are made from such a soft alloy. While it’s great for terminal performance on game it may be a problem when driven hard velocity wise, maybe the bullets are having trouble getting “traction” in the rifling. How “soft” does a bullet have to be to be rated to expand down to 13/14/1500 fps? Plus a 415 grain bullet @ 2900 FPS will not penetrate a 3/8” ar500 plate at 100 yards, just splatters with a small divot where as a WAAYYY smaller Barnes bullet near that velocity will punch a hole right through. The long soft alloy bullets may have a certain velocity threshold they can stand when ran through the tighter twists needed for stabilization...? Maybe not enough bearing surface for such, maybe more aggressive (deeper/taller/whatever you want to call it) rifling? My .408 shot the Cutting Edge MTH well past 2,000 yards and was scary accurate, this was at 2900 fps mentioned above. I was one of those that had trouble with some of the .375 Hammers, awesome groups up close but something happened way out. The good news is that Steve is all over it! Don’t know how many I have left, but if anyone is interested in trying them in a lesser cartridge than my Snipetac you are welcome to them (if it’s enough to even mess with). Added: Steve I see you are posting, what did you come up with on this? Unless it’s a “secret”, then you can just text or call me. I have the clearance!:D [/QUOTE]
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