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<blockquote data-quote="QuietTexan" data-source="post: 2303533" data-attributes="member: 116181"><p>TL;DR - agree 100% with ^^^^^ this right above me. Shoot that load at however far you think your max is, if it holds together forget about the statistics and run it.</p><p></p><p>Long version:</p><p></p><p>First, 25 ES isn't not necessarily bad because ultimately ES will approach and exceed 6x SD. In a three shot group it's distressing, but if you shot a 10-shot group and showed SD 10, ES 60 that represents a solid handload. If you shot 10-shot a SD 5, ES 30 group that's exceptional. ES is primarily a negative confirmation tool in that you can use it to rule out bad loads, but can't use it to confirm good loads because the potential range of "good" answers is pretty wide and SD provides more detailed information on what a load should do.</p><p></p><p>3-shot 30 ES that papers the way yours does isn't bad at all. It could be a 100 ES and if it hits one hole at 100 yards, a<em>nd you're going to shoot at 100 yards (or shoot a group at 300 yards and if the group works at 300 yards same concept)</em>, who the heck cares what the ES if they hit the same hole/ shoot the right size? Now if you want to shoot that load at 1k yards, then maybe tightening up a 100 ES would be worth the time because you're pushing more more into predictive statistics then. You'd want to reduce all the variances that you can so you don't have to shoot 500 rounds to decide that your vertical variance is FPS related and not seating or tuning or something else.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, how many loads on the brass. The numbers can creep as brass ages through multiple firings. Again not necessarily bad if the paper shows a good result.</p><p></p><p>Thirdly, yes get new brass if you want to get the best possible numbers. Hit reset, start new, do all the brass preps steps you can, and see what comes out of that.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://precisionrifleblog.com/2020/12/05/muzzle-velocity-statistics-for-shooters/[/URL]</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/06/09/how-much-does-it-matter-overall-summary/[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="QuietTexan, post: 2303533, member: 116181"] TL;DR - agree 100% with ^^^^^ this right above me. Shoot that load at however far you think your max is, if it holds together forget about the statistics and run it. Long version: First, 25 ES isn't not necessarily bad because ultimately ES will approach and exceed 6x SD. In a three shot group it's distressing, but if you shot a 10-shot group and showed SD 10, ES 60 that represents a solid handload. If you shot 10-shot a SD 5, ES 30 group that's exceptional. ES is primarily a negative confirmation tool in that you can use it to rule out bad loads, but can't use it to confirm good loads because the potential range of "good" answers is pretty wide and SD provides more detailed information on what a load should do. 3-shot 30 ES that papers the way yours does isn't bad at all. It could be a 100 ES and if it hits one hole at 100 yards, a[I]nd you're going to shoot at 100 yards (or shoot a group at 300 yards and if the group works at 300 yards same concept)[/I], who the heck cares what the ES if they hit the same hole/ shoot the right size? Now if you want to shoot that load at 1k yards, then maybe tightening up a 100 ES would be worth the time because you're pushing more more into predictive statistics then. You'd want to reduce all the variances that you can so you don't have to shoot 500 rounds to decide that your vertical variance is FPS related and not seating or tuning or something else. Secondly, how many loads on the brass. The numbers can creep as brass ages through multiple firings. Again not necessarily bad if the paper shows a good result. Thirdly, yes get new brass if you want to get the best possible numbers. Hit reset, start new, do all the brass preps steps you can, and see what comes out of that. [URL unfurl="true"]https://precisionrifleblog.com/2020/12/05/muzzle-velocity-statistics-for-shooters/[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/06/09/how-much-does-it-matter-overall-summary/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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