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<blockquote data-quote="Shadowwalker" data-source="post: 1655647" data-attributes="member: 106000"><p>I see a lot of shooters trying to achieve a super gun. Super guns are super by design not accident.</p><p>For what it's worth...I spent 50 years shooting serious benchrest in rimfire, centerfire and airgun. Have worked for a major arms mfger in R&D for years plus a long personal tenure along side Ed Shilen when he made real barrels and everyone In the shop was a serious shooter. In fact I was there in N.Y. when we made our first buttoned bbl and have the first target ever shot with a Shilen barrel. I am a former world champion in benchrest.</p><p>This is a really tough game where everything counts. If you seek the Grail you will find extreme accuracy is a multi layered exercise in absolute perfection. The one who reduces the variables the most, all other things being equal will win. History dictates and supports this.</p><p>Not only does the ctg have to be purpose driven, the bbl maker has to have serious credentials, the action has to be designed correct, the chamber has to be a work of art as does the crown. The brass, primers and projectiles must be historically accurate and flawless. Winners win because they know something you do not. Look at what they are using. They are not using it because it doesn't work.</p><p>The bedding, chamber and crown must be done by a master not your local smith. You find these guys in the benchrest field. You must embrace their knowledge and methods or you will get beat by someone who does.</p><p>They also shoot the smallest groups on the planet so must know how to acheive tiny groups. Learn from them.</p><p>Loading becomes an art form in exact repeatability to acheive low SD here.</p><p>You will find Accuracy is always found in the details.</p><p>Thiis sport requires severe dedication and effort and an open mind.</p><p>It also helps if you learn how to really shoot. The best made gun in the world is useless unless you learn how to shoot it and the best shooter in the world will lose with a poorly made gun.</p><p>Wind and it's affect on projectiles are a science unto it's self and takes years to understand and predict.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadowwalker, post: 1655647, member: 106000"] I see a lot of shooters trying to achieve a super gun. Super guns are super by design not accident. For what it's worth...I spent 50 years shooting serious benchrest in rimfire, centerfire and airgun. Have worked for a major arms mfger in R&D for years plus a long personal tenure along side Ed Shilen when he made real barrels and everyone In the shop was a serious shooter. In fact I was there in N.Y. when we made our first buttoned bbl and have the first target ever shot with a Shilen barrel. I am a former world champion in benchrest. This is a really tough game where everything counts. If you seek the Grail you will find extreme accuracy is a multi layered exercise in absolute perfection. The one who reduces the variables the most, all other things being equal will win. History dictates and supports this. Not only does the ctg have to be purpose driven, the bbl maker has to have serious credentials, the action has to be designed correct, the chamber has to be a work of art as does the crown. The brass, primers and projectiles must be historically accurate and flawless. Winners win because they know something you do not. Look at what they are using. They are not using it because it doesn't work. The bedding, chamber and crown must be done by a master not your local smith. You find these guys in the benchrest field. You must embrace their knowledge and methods or you will get beat by someone who does. They also shoot the smallest groups on the planet so must know how to acheive tiny groups. Learn from them. Loading becomes an art form in exact repeatability to acheive low SD here. You will find Accuracy is always found in the details. Thiis sport requires severe dedication and effort and an open mind. It also helps if you learn how to really shoot. The best made gun in the world is useless unless you learn how to shoot it and the best shooter in the world will lose with a poorly made gun. Wind and it's affect on projectiles are a science unto it's self and takes years to understand and predict. [/QUOTE]
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