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<blockquote data-quote="snapshooter" data-source="post: 1586259" data-attributes="member: 109020"><p>AR10AR15MAN: PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH !!!</p><p>not sort of wrong at all!</p><p> I was talking exactly about the spray carb. cleaner you can buy right now at your favorite auto store. It may not be as strong as it used to be in the 60's 70's but still an acidic petrochemical READ THE CAN "CORROSIVE ON CONTACT WITH SKIN FLUSH WITH WATER". It is WATER DEACTIVATED and designed to be done as such ask a chemical engineer turns whitish and flushes away the acidic part leaving an oily residue that will not stop rust. People that use it improperly are a mechanics best friend. </p><p> 2nd with water injection through your engines intake you will find you can increase power, raise compression and control detonation using it. Propeller airplanes especially during ww2 and race cars still use it today and now they have also added methanol with it. I have an injection setup using this on my 2018 blown Challenger Demon #708 of 3000 at almost 1000 horsepower. that is one of the reasons your car engine makes more power in the rain and on high humidity days denser heavier air, higher compression steals some cylinder volume water does not compress, turns to steam with combustion cooling peak temp helping to control detonation then gases off and adds some extra o2. This is a very simplistic explanation you can follow the drift. Also we use plastic bags and rubber bands to encapsulate or cover items when washing engines still in the car along with engine degreasers and carb cleaner on the older cars. Only a idiot would hose down the barrels of a carb, mounted on a working or running engine. As a plus you will find that your groups are better on very high humidity and light rainy days because of the heavy dense air your spotter will have it easier watching trails also.</p><p> 3rd You can buy carb dip or soak cleaner at your better auto stores called CHEM B12 comes in a 1 gallon paint can partially filled with dip tray 20 bucks or so. It is also available from Safety- Kleen in a 20 gallon drum for shop use. very caustic defiantly water to deactivate. Both will attack carbon just hard on steel if left to long it will eat through a steel paint can just takes a long time have a wood shelf to prove it. (I.E. 10 minutes on dip 30 minutes with spray max scrub then wet water patch dry patch and scope repeat as necessary oil when done use shorter times on stainless will discolor exterior surfaces pretty much for life.) I learned the hard way on a colt stainless auto frame being sloppy on the bench.</p><p> 4th I was not talking about internal carbon cleaners like SEA FOAM I have never tried it is designed to work in a combustion environment.</p><p> I retired at 50 years old and a Veteran set for the rest of my life because of others who took their time to impart some of their wisdom upon me that I learned from and took to heart. I also freely impart knowledge to help others hoping to save them some of others peoples mistakes. </p><p> Some times in the army we used some pretty strange cleaners and lube on those m-16's and 45's like dot 3 brake fluid is a lite oil and a cleaner but smokes like hell and will probably shorten you life breathing the fumes. There is a reason the chemicals for firearms cost more it is called safety and smokeless powder compatibility and some still melt plastic things but most are not as caustic to your skin as chemicals in the automotive world. Please do your self a favor and READ THE LABEL INSTRUCTIONS AND WARNINGS FOR SAFE USE TWICE! </p><p> 5th <strong>You have now just been Schooled</strong>. </p><p> If I was a Drill Sargent that would be 50 Squat Thrusts per paragraph! Plus I would have been yelling right in your ear the whole time!!! </p><p> Automotive chemicals are not designed for firearm maintenance but some work quite well with proper knowledge of their properties and use. I would never clean a carb with Hoppies #9 but it very well might work, I can see an experiment on a motorcycle carb in the future but it will cost way more than that $2.50 carb spray can for the Hoppies or using brake cleaner instead of gun scrubber. </p><p>Hopefully I have not offended you that was not the objective and I apologize if I have. </p><p> My late father was an Engineering graduate from M.I.T. in Boston and R.O.T.C. I can still feel some of those squat thrusts pushups were for girls.</p><p> Have a great day out shooting and good luck with your firearm maintenance that's our part of the repayment for all of the fun we have shooting them!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="snapshooter, post: 1586259, member: 109020"] AR10AR15MAN: PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH !!! not sort of wrong at all! I was talking exactly about the spray carb. cleaner you can buy right now at your favorite auto store. It may not be as strong as it used to be in the 60's 70's but still an acidic petrochemical READ THE CAN "CORROSIVE ON CONTACT WITH SKIN FLUSH WITH WATER". It is WATER DEACTIVATED and designed to be done as such ask a chemical engineer turns whitish and flushes away the acidic part leaving an oily residue that will not stop rust. People that use it improperly are a mechanics best friend. 2nd with water injection through your engines intake you will find you can increase power, raise compression and control detonation using it. Propeller airplanes especially during ww2 and race cars still use it today and now they have also added methanol with it. I have an injection setup using this on my 2018 blown Challenger Demon #708 of 3000 at almost 1000 horsepower. that is one of the reasons your car engine makes more power in the rain and on high humidity days denser heavier air, higher compression steals some cylinder volume water does not compress, turns to steam with combustion cooling peak temp helping to control detonation then gases off and adds some extra o2. This is a very simplistic explanation you can follow the drift. Also we use plastic bags and rubber bands to encapsulate or cover items when washing engines still in the car along with engine degreasers and carb cleaner on the older cars. Only a idiot would hose down the barrels of a carb, mounted on a working or running engine. As a plus you will find that your groups are better on very high humidity and light rainy days because of the heavy dense air your spotter will have it easier watching trails also. 3rd You can buy carb dip or soak cleaner at your better auto stores called CHEM B12 comes in a 1 gallon paint can partially filled with dip tray 20 bucks or so. It is also available from Safety- Kleen in a 20 gallon drum for shop use. very caustic defiantly water to deactivate. Both will attack carbon just hard on steel if left to long it will eat through a steel paint can just takes a long time have a wood shelf to prove it. (I.E. 10 minutes on dip 30 minutes with spray max scrub then wet water patch dry patch and scope repeat as necessary oil when done use shorter times on stainless will discolor exterior surfaces pretty much for life.) I learned the hard way on a colt stainless auto frame being sloppy on the bench. 4th I was not talking about internal carbon cleaners like SEA FOAM I have never tried it is designed to work in a combustion environment. I retired at 50 years old and a Veteran set for the rest of my life because of others who took their time to impart some of their wisdom upon me that I learned from and took to heart. I also freely impart knowledge to help others hoping to save them some of others peoples mistakes. Some times in the army we used some pretty strange cleaners and lube on those m-16's and 45's like dot 3 brake fluid is a lite oil and a cleaner but smokes like hell and will probably shorten you life breathing the fumes. There is a reason the chemicals for firearms cost more it is called safety and smokeless powder compatibility and some still melt plastic things but most are not as caustic to your skin as chemicals in the automotive world. Please do your self a favor and READ THE LABEL INSTRUCTIONS AND WARNINGS FOR SAFE USE TWICE! 5th [B]You have now just been Schooled[/B]. If I was a Drill Sargent that would be 50 Squat Thrusts per paragraph! Plus I would have been yelling right in your ear the whole time!!! Automotive chemicals are not designed for firearm maintenance but some work quite well with proper knowledge of their properties and use. I would never clean a carb with Hoppies #9 but it very well might work, I can see an experiment on a motorcycle carb in the future but it will cost way more than that $2.50 carb spray can for the Hoppies or using brake cleaner instead of gun scrubber. Hopefully I have not offended you that was not the objective and I apologize if I have. My late father was an Engineering graduate from M.I.T. in Boston and R.O.T.C. I can still feel some of those squat thrusts pushups were for girls. Have a great day out shooting and good luck with your firearm maintenance that's our part of the repayment for all of the fun we have shooting them! [/QUOTE]
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