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Elk Habits if Pushed due to Light Hunting Pressure?
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<blockquote data-quote="JimFisher" data-source="post: 1930516" data-attributes="member: 58962"><p>I also am curious why you chose this particular outfitter..? Is he the only one that services that hunting area? Did he come highly recommended from previous "drop camp" hunters? Does he report a high success rate for his hunters? What???</p><p>I'd be asking him why he selected that particular camp site for you..? Is it because that's where the elk will likely be during your hunt, or because its the best flat spot for a camp, or perhaps its the easiest place to get his horse pack string into, so he can get back out to pick up another set of hunters?? I'd also have a clear understanding with him about who "packs out the elk to camp". When I have done these kinds of hunts, I always confirm that the outfitter brings in his horses to pack out meat from the kill site. Typically, the outfitter will provide a satellite phone to contact him when a kill is made, and he'll give instructions on how to field dress and prep the meat for pick up. I can assure you its no fun trying to pack meat (even on a pack frame) up steep slopes at 10-12k feet!!</p><p>Ask him if he's doing drop camps for any of the previous groups of hunters for that area: ie, archery, muzzeloader, and/or early rifle, and where he's dropping them (same camp or other)? Since you will be essentially the fourth group of hunters in the area, the elk will be on alert and skittish, if they're even still in the drainage. It doesn't take much to disturb elk from their normal habitat, such as one might expect from three groups of hunters in the three or four previous weeks along with the smells and sounds from their campsites. Also, ask him about the success of the previous three groups before you, and where they saw the elk (especially the early rifle guys). And also, you will be there during a normal elk behavior transition from the rut of mid-late September to dispersal during early-late Oct. Big bulls that were bugling readily during the archery and ML seasons will likely be bugle-shy, alone and nocturnal (ie, not with the cows) when you're there. So, use a cow call sparingly just to locate elk, then glass those areas intently. Again, ask your outfitter these questions. Consider another guide if you're not satisfied with the answers. And, best of luck to you and your dad.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JimFisher, post: 1930516, member: 58962"] I also am curious why you chose this particular outfitter..? Is he the only one that services that hunting area? Did he come highly recommended from previous "drop camp" hunters? Does he report a high success rate for his hunters? What??? I'd be asking him why he selected that particular camp site for you..? Is it because that's where the elk will likely be during your hunt, or because its the best flat spot for a camp, or perhaps its the easiest place to get his horse pack string into, so he can get back out to pick up another set of hunters?? I'd also have a clear understanding with him about who "packs out the elk to camp". When I have done these kinds of hunts, I always confirm that the outfitter brings in his horses to pack out meat from the kill site. Typically, the outfitter will provide a satellite phone to contact him when a kill is made, and he'll give instructions on how to field dress and prep the meat for pick up. I can assure you its no fun trying to pack meat (even on a pack frame) up steep slopes at 10-12k feet!! Ask him if he's doing drop camps for any of the previous groups of hunters for that area: ie, archery, muzzeloader, and/or early rifle, and where he's dropping them (same camp or other)? Since you will be essentially the fourth group of hunters in the area, the elk will be on alert and skittish, if they're even still in the drainage. It doesn't take much to disturb elk from their normal habitat, such as one might expect from three groups of hunters in the three or four previous weeks along with the smells and sounds from their campsites. Also, ask him about the success of the previous three groups before you, and where they saw the elk (especially the early rifle guys). And also, you will be there during a normal elk behavior transition from the rut of mid-late September to dispersal during early-late Oct. Big bulls that were bugling readily during the archery and ML seasons will likely be bugle-shy, alone and nocturnal (ie, not with the cows) when you're there. So, use a cow call sparingly just to locate elk, then glass those areas intently. Again, ask your outfitter these questions. Consider another guide if you're not satisfied with the answers. And, best of luck to you and your dad. [/QUOTE]
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