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<blockquote data-quote="benchracer" data-source="post: 1472924" data-attributes="member: 22069"><p>No one is butt hurt. Get over yourself. I used YOUR words. If you have a problem with that, it is YOUR problem.</p><p></p><p>Even in a 7.5 twist, there is NO WAY that is enough to cause structural failure of a bullet and 2750 is NOT hotrodding by any definition.</p><p></p><p>Link #1: 2750 in a 7.5 twist. NOT excessive. Even Hornady hasn't asserted that and THEY would be in a position to know.</p><p></p><p>Link #2: Three different rifles with 8 twists (Hornady's recommended twist) @ 2880, 2915, and 3061. ALL well within typical 6.5 velocities for the respective cases. Are you really going to assert that the structural integrity of a given bullet is based on the case from which it is fired?</p><p></p><p>There is ZERO link between chamber pressure and bullet integrity. I defy you to prove otherwise. Your insistence that your assertions are fact based are laughably ignorant.</p><p></p><p>BTW, I HAVE done my own testing with this bullet, up to mid-2800's from a standard .260 with RL-26, in a Savage 8 twist. Fortunately, no structural failures as yet. My concern is that the problem may be related to specific production lots. Waiting to see how this issue shakes out before buying more 147's. I have a few hundred more of the 147's left, which I will continue to shoot while waiting for answers to the reported problems to emerge. Until then, 143's seem like a reasonable substitute. I know of others using them with good results.</p><p></p><p>The fact that this problem has also manifested with ELD-M's in other weights and diameters seems to hint at some sort of issue with the jackets. Given that I have personally witnessed jacket failure with early production AMP-jacketed 178 BTHP's, at sedate velocities in a .308, I suspect an issue with the manufacturing process. This is a phenomenon that did not seem to be common with the previous AMAX designs, which were pre-AMP process bullets.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="benchracer, post: 1472924, member: 22069"] No one is butt hurt. Get over yourself. I used YOUR words. If you have a problem with that, it is YOUR problem. Even in a 7.5 twist, there is NO WAY that is enough to cause structural failure of a bullet and 2750 is NOT hotrodding by any definition. Link #1: 2750 in a 7.5 twist. NOT excessive. Even Hornady hasn't asserted that and THEY would be in a position to know. Link #2: Three different rifles with 8 twists (Hornady's recommended twist) @ 2880, 2915, and 3061. ALL well within typical 6.5 velocities for the respective cases. Are you really going to assert that the structural integrity of a given bullet is based on the case from which it is fired? There is ZERO link between chamber pressure and bullet integrity. I defy you to prove otherwise. Your insistence that your assertions are fact based are laughably ignorant. BTW, I HAVE done my own testing with this bullet, up to mid-2800's from a standard .260 with RL-26, in a Savage 8 twist. Fortunately, no structural failures as yet. My concern is that the problem may be related to specific production lots. Waiting to see how this issue shakes out before buying more 147's. I have a few hundred more of the 147's left, which I will continue to shoot while waiting for answers to the reported problems to emerge. Until then, 143's seem like a reasonable substitute. I know of others using them with good results. The fact that this problem has also manifested with ELD-M's in other weights and diameters seems to hint at some sort of issue with the jackets. Given that I have personally witnessed jacket failure with early production AMP-jacketed 178 BTHP's, at sedate velocities in a .308, I suspect an issue with the manufacturing process. This is a phenomenon that did not seem to be common with the previous AMAX designs, which were pre-AMP process bullets. [/QUOTE]
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