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Custom actions, are they worth it?
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<blockquote data-quote="VinceMule" data-source="post: 2985327" data-attributes="member: 122164"><p>Bob, you do realize that when you cut the threads off, in effect, you changed the harmonics, eh? Just think about how little you have to move a tuner to adjust a load. I am not discounting the action change, but I would question if the stocks were the same and all the other details. I have done this previously myself going from a Stolle Panda benchrest barrel to a Rem 700 that was non-trued, same reamer used on both barrels, same stocks etc. Humbling. I recently tried to "fix" a barrel going from a non-trued 700 to a Stole Panda, cut off enough to get the muzzle dia and throat dia the same, no improvement in groups, it is a 3/8" barrel. </p><p></p><p> We all have our personal favorites on custom actions, mine is Borden, Stolle, and Bat, established integrity with a long track record, from owners that set the standards in "Customers being the Key" to their business success, I like the Tried and True, been burned too many times.</p><p></p><p>I go into all of these details because many of the members just can not afford a total custom rig. With Bidononomics hitting use all HARD, then throw in a young family that sucks up most of the disposable income, the younger/middle age guys do not have the funds to get into this longer-range accuracy game thinking that it takes an ungodly amount of money. The older guys that know how to tune loads, need to teach the younger generations something other than throwing BIG money in a gun. Learn the advanced reloading, learn the basics in wind reading, bench techniques, Bi Pod techniques, and it is nothing short of Amazing what factory rifles are capable of that are being made today, but they need bedding, free-floating, mag boxes floated, muzzle break in the least before the rifle is ever fired the first round.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="VinceMule, post: 2985327, member: 122164"] Bob, you do realize that when you cut the threads off, in effect, you changed the harmonics, eh? Just think about how little you have to move a tuner to adjust a load. I am not discounting the action change, but I would question if the stocks were the same and all the other details. I have done this previously myself going from a Stolle Panda benchrest barrel to a Rem 700 that was non-trued, same reamer used on both barrels, same stocks etc. Humbling. I recently tried to "fix" a barrel going from a non-trued 700 to a Stole Panda, cut off enough to get the muzzle dia and throat dia the same, no improvement in groups, it is a 3/8" barrel. We all have our personal favorites on custom actions, mine is Borden, Stolle, and Bat, established integrity with a long track record, from owners that set the standards in "Customers being the Key" to their business success, I like the Tried and True, been burned too many times. I go into all of these details because many of the members just can not afford a total custom rig. With Bidononomics hitting use all HARD, then throw in a young family that sucks up most of the disposable income, the younger/middle age guys do not have the funds to get into this longer-range accuracy game thinking that it takes an ungodly amount of money. The older guys that know how to tune loads, need to teach the younger generations something other than throwing BIG money in a gun. Learn the advanced reloading, learn the basics in wind reading, bench techniques, Bi Pod techniques, and it is nothing short of Amazing what factory rifles are capable of that are being made today, but they need bedding, free-floating, mag boxes floated, muzzle break in the least before the rifle is ever fired the first round. [/QUOTE]
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