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Coppermelt, what am I doing wrong?
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<blockquote data-quote="jb1000br" data-source="post: 74665" data-attributes="member: 1459"><p>[ QUOTE ]</p><p> [ QUOTE ]</p><p> Again, I know Coppermelt is FASTER, but that was not the point of my post! </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ] </p><p></p><p>There you go again!</p><p>The whole point of my post was to ask how can you say you know ANYTHING about Coppermelt when you have never used it. That is armchair theory at it's finest.</p><p></p><p>I have no problem with you stating facts or opinions about WO because you have obviously used it. But at the same time, you state things about Coppermelt that show you have obviously NEVER used it.</p><p></p><p>As I said in my earlier post, Coppermelt is not finicky with temps. I have used it in the sun all day during the summer months and it is still alive! </p><p></p><p>You're complaints are unfounded. You have not even looked into the product enough to know if they put a buffer around the enzyme to protect it before you call it a bare enzyme.</p><p></p><p>You also state that WO is easier to use in which I replied that wrapping patches is not difficult at all unless you have no fingers. It takes five seconds.</p><p></p><p>If you wanted to just let others know there were other options in cleaning, then making a fresh post about Wipeout would be the best route rather than portraying the idea that you had tried CM and saying it was too difficult to bother with.</p><p></p><p> [ QUOTE ]</p><p> If you get some FACTS about the enzyme's hardiness and tolerance, i'd like to hear them. </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ] </p><p></p><p>I have provided pages and pages of "facts" on this topic that were as concrete as the "facts" you made about WO. If there is something else that I learn or can tell you, I will. It has been awhile since my college biology class, but if I can understand some new info on the biology of the product then it will be here a.s.a.p.</p><p></p><p> [ QUOTE ]</p><p> , no need to lynch me up for speaking </p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ] </p><p></p><p>I did not intend to lynch you about this. I hope you understand that the tone of this writing is not a derogatory one. I respect you and know that you know you're stuff. It is just a big pet peeve of mine to have armchair theorists ruling the propaganda of new products, and my ethics dictate I speak up. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif </p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ]</p><p></p><p></p><p>Um, you said it was FAST, so i ASSumed, since you said it was FAST, that is was indeed FAST -- </p><p></p><p>others have also said it takes copper out fast</p><p></p><p>so am i wrong saying it is fast /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif </p><p></p><p>obviously it is faster than WO -- you have showed that -- i dont need to use it to know that /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif</p><p></p><p>I have never been to the center of the earth either, but i can tell you it is hotter 'n heck down there!</p><p></p><p>had i said "it doesnt touch carbon" then you could accuse me of armchair QB'ing /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif </p><p></p><p>RE: Enzyme and buffer</p><p></p><p>Indeed i did read up on copermelt, but the fact that it is in a buffered solution, GOES WITHOUT SAYING. The naked enzyme out of its home organism would REQUIRE a buffered solution, or it wouldnt last long /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif</p><p></p><p>Buffers only moderate pH changes, they dont help with heat</p><p></p><p>[DISCLAIMER]: Again-- just speaking of the biology of enzymes in solution here, not directly speaking of the coppermelt mixture since i have never used it. [/DISCLAIMER]</p><p></p><p>FWIW and YMMV,</p><p></p><p>JB</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jb1000br, post: 74665, member: 1459"] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Again, I know Coppermelt is FASTER, but that was not the point of my post! [/ QUOTE ] There you go again! The whole point of my post was to ask how can you say you know ANYTHING about Coppermelt when you have never used it. That is armchair theory at it's finest. I have no problem with you stating facts or opinions about WO because you have obviously used it. But at the same time, you state things about Coppermelt that show you have obviously NEVER used it. As I said in my earlier post, Coppermelt is not finicky with temps. I have used it in the sun all day during the summer months and it is still alive! You're complaints are unfounded. You have not even looked into the product enough to know if they put a buffer around the enzyme to protect it before you call it a bare enzyme. You also state that WO is easier to use in which I replied that wrapping patches is not difficult at all unless you have no fingers. It takes five seconds. If you wanted to just let others know there were other options in cleaning, then making a fresh post about Wipeout would be the best route rather than portraying the idea that you had tried CM and saying it was too difficult to bother with. [ QUOTE ] If you get some FACTS about the enzyme's hardiness and tolerance, i'd like to hear them. [/ QUOTE ] I have provided pages and pages of "facts" on this topic that were as concrete as the "facts" you made about WO. If there is something else that I learn or can tell you, I will. It has been awhile since my college biology class, but if I can understand some new info on the biology of the product then it will be here a.s.a.p. [ QUOTE ] , no need to lynch me up for speaking [/ QUOTE ] I did not intend to lynch you about this. I hope you understand that the tone of this writing is not a derogatory one. I respect you and know that you know you're stuff. It is just a big pet peeve of mine to have armchair theorists ruling the propaganda of new products, and my ethics dictate I speak up. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Um, you said it was FAST, so i ASSumed, since you said it was FAST, that is was indeed FAST -- others have also said it takes copper out fast so am i wrong saying it is fast [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] obviously it is faster than WO -- you have showed that -- i dont need to use it to know that [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I have never been to the center of the earth either, but i can tell you it is hotter 'n heck down there! had i said "it doesnt touch carbon" then you could accuse me of armchair QB'ing [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] RE: Enzyme and buffer Indeed i did read up on copermelt, but the fact that it is in a buffered solution, GOES WITHOUT SAYING. The naked enzyme out of its home organism would REQUIRE a buffered solution, or it wouldnt last long [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Buffers only moderate pH changes, they dont help with heat [DISCLAIMER]: Again-- just speaking of the biology of enzymes in solution here, not directly speaking of the coppermelt mixture since i have never used it. [/DISCLAIMER] FWIW and YMMV, JB [/QUOTE]
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