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<blockquote data-quote="Shootin4fun" data-source="post: 972408" data-attributes="member: 28741"><p>Mudrunner, your limited experience of Calif. and quickly drawn sociological conclusions, as well as your non-hunting related travel plans can be stated many places, but a reloading forum is hardly the appropriate venue. I'm surprised Len or the Admin haven't whacked you on the back of your knuckles already. </p><p></p><p>None of us like the anti gun politicians running around this state or many of teh social / economic policies they put forth. But we fight against their idiotic proposals as much as possible, much thanks to the NRA in the area of gun control. If you want to get in a ******* match about your state vs. Calif., I'll just ask, "What has been invented or designed in Alabama in the last 70 years? Anything?" Nevermind...back to reloading.</p><p></p><p>With regards to the lead ban for hunting, it seems like most us don't like being force into it, but its interesting to note that the use of Barnes is among the leaders in Len's poll, and most on this site don't live in Calif. For now I use both but Barnes has never let me down; they drill 'em and bring 'em down fast. </p><p></p><p>Barnes seemed difficult to find good loads for at first. But as has been pointed out elsewhere, if you seat 'em deep and push 'em hard, they can be very accurate. One thing is that with lead bullets I have a couple of accurate nodes, where as with Barnes it seems to be best only around max loads. I have loads for the 130gr TSX in 270win and 85gr 243 that are .25 MOA. The 243 go out at 3200 fps (38.0 Varget), and the 270 at 2900 (54.4 H4350). Both 22" barrels running safe but high pressures. Primers are very flattened but no other pressure signs. Case life is decent (8+). I used Barnes recommended spec as .050" off lands and went from there on powder charges. </p><p></p><p>2900 might seem slow for a 130 out of a 270 but it has smoked anything I've hit with it, including wild pig shoulder shots. (160 yards, Blew a .5"+ hole through the shoulder bone, pulverized all neck/thoracic bones, exited below far shoulder, .75" hole. Did not take a step, DRT)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shootin4fun, post: 972408, member: 28741"] Mudrunner, your limited experience of Calif. and quickly drawn sociological conclusions, as well as your non-hunting related travel plans can be stated many places, but a reloading forum is hardly the appropriate venue. I'm surprised Len or the Admin haven't whacked you on the back of your knuckles already. None of us like the anti gun politicians running around this state or many of teh social / economic policies they put forth. But we fight against their idiotic proposals as much as possible, much thanks to the NRA in the area of gun control. If you want to get in a ******* match about your state vs. Calif., I'll just ask, "What has been invented or designed in Alabama in the last 70 years? Anything?" Nevermind...back to reloading. With regards to the lead ban for hunting, it seems like most us don't like being force into it, but its interesting to note that the use of Barnes is among the leaders in Len's poll, and most on this site don't live in Calif. For now I use both but Barnes has never let me down; they drill 'em and bring 'em down fast. Barnes seemed difficult to find good loads for at first. But as has been pointed out elsewhere, if you seat 'em deep and push 'em hard, they can be very accurate. One thing is that with lead bullets I have a couple of accurate nodes, where as with Barnes it seems to be best only around max loads. I have loads for the 130gr TSX in 270win and 85gr 243 that are .25 MOA. The 243 go out at 3200 fps (38.0 Varget), and the 270 at 2900 (54.4 H4350). Both 22" barrels running safe but high pressures. Primers are very flattened but no other pressure signs. Case life is decent (8+). I used Barnes recommended spec as .050" off lands and went from there on powder charges. 2900 might seem slow for a 130 out of a 270 but it has smoked anything I've hit with it, including wild pig shoulder shots. (160 yards, Blew a .5"+ hole through the shoulder bone, pulverized all neck/thoracic bones, exited below far shoulder, .75" hole. Did not take a step, DRT) [/QUOTE]
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