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<blockquote data-quote="Packrat 6" data-source="post: 1018873" data-attributes="member: 80288"><p>backyardsniper,</p><p>You mentioned the M1A a few threads back so will give you my opinion. I have 2 M1A Springfields. One is a National Match, built by Springfield, with all the NM bells and whistles which only gets used for wandering into the texas brush for wounded hogs. I presently don't have a scope on it since I want to move fast since most of the shooting is under 30' and often enough am firing before it ever reaches my shoulder. There is a certain quality that quantity provides and with 168 Gr slugs and a 20 round magazine, there is about all the quantity you will ever need for almost anything short of a firefight. The only complaint that I have with this rifle is that I need to buy a composite stock since it has the optional heavy wood stock and weighs about 11.5 Lbs. If I put the Springfield (I think it's a 4-16x) scope on it it can hit anything I can see with enough knock down to take down anything I hit. </p><p></p><p>The 2nd M1A is a Springfield built Super Match, stainless Kreiger barrel, special iron sights, supermatch trigger, 6-24x54 Mil-dot, rangefinder Springfield scope and mounts and accurized by Springfield which was custom ordered for competition shooting, which I haven't been doing for the last several years because of my eyes. Again, it has all the bells and whistles that Springfield provides, and any failing with the rifle isn't the rifles, it is mine. We used to joke about the old saying of packing 1/2 ounce of Salt in the cartridge to keep the meat from spoiling before we got there, it was so far off, but the rifle can accurately hit just about anything you can see through the scope. Including 10" dia. circles at 1000 Meters (almost 1100 yds) The only thing I don't like about this one is the SS barrel doesn't look right with the rest of the weapon. Should match the rest of the coatings and one of these days......</p><p></p><p>With a composite stock, I believe it would weigh in around 8.5 - 9 lbs, but you can throw either of them off a rooftop, into 10' of sticky mud, and pick it up and it will still fire accurately, providing that the scope survived. I know the iron sights did. Try<em> that </em>with one of the other rifles. It is probably one of the most versatile and accurate issue weapons ever manufactured and rugged as hell. </p><p></p><p>One thing though, I've never fired one with a collapsable stock. </p><p></p><p>In my neighborhood, there are 6 guys, 4 ex-Army and 2 ex-Marines and between us we own 9 M1A's and we'll never give them up. Once you own one, you're hooked. Also, the new SOCOM and Scout M1A's are much shorter and lighter than most of ours. </p><p></p><p>Anyway, good luck on your search.</p><p></p><p>Packrat</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]41470[/ATTACH]..................................................[ATTACH]41471[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Packrat 6, post: 1018873, member: 80288"] backyardsniper, You mentioned the M1A a few threads back so will give you my opinion. I have 2 M1A Springfields. One is a National Match, built by Springfield, with all the NM bells and whistles which only gets used for wandering into the texas brush for wounded hogs. I presently don't have a scope on it since I want to move fast since most of the shooting is under 30' and often enough am firing before it ever reaches my shoulder. There is a certain quality that quantity provides and with 168 Gr slugs and a 20 round magazine, there is about all the quantity you will ever need for almost anything short of a firefight. The only complaint that I have with this rifle is that I need to buy a composite stock since it has the optional heavy wood stock and weighs about 11.5 Lbs. If I put the Springfield (I think it's a 4-16x) scope on it it can hit anything I can see with enough knock down to take down anything I hit. The 2nd M1A is a Springfield built Super Match, stainless Kreiger barrel, special iron sights, supermatch trigger, 6-24x54 Mil-dot, rangefinder Springfield scope and mounts and accurized by Springfield which was custom ordered for competition shooting, which I haven't been doing for the last several years because of my eyes. Again, it has all the bells and whistles that Springfield provides, and any failing with the rifle isn't the rifles, it is mine. We used to joke about the old saying of packing 1/2 ounce of Salt in the cartridge to keep the meat from spoiling before we got there, it was so far off, but the rifle can accurately hit just about anything you can see through the scope. Including 10" dia. circles at 1000 Meters (almost 1100 yds) The only thing I don't like about this one is the SS barrel doesn't look right with the rest of the weapon. Should match the rest of the coatings and one of these days...... With a composite stock, I believe it would weigh in around 8.5 - 9 lbs, but you can throw either of them off a rooftop, into 10' of sticky mud, and pick it up and it will still fire accurately, providing that the scope survived. I know the iron sights did. Try[I] that [/I]with one of the other rifles. It is probably one of the most versatile and accurate issue weapons ever manufactured and rugged as hell. One thing though, I've never fired one with a collapsable stock. In my neighborhood, there are 6 guys, 4 ex-Army and 2 ex-Marines and between us we own 9 M1A's and we'll never give them up. Once you own one, you're hooked. Also, the new SOCOM and Scout M1A's are much shorter and lighter than most of ours. Anyway, good luck on your search. Packrat [ATTACH]41470.vB[/ATTACH]..................................................[ATTACH]41471.vB[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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