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<blockquote data-quote="jbronner13" data-source="post: 2626999" data-attributes="member: 123550"><p>I get your points by and agree to some extent but the SAAMI specs on the 6.5x55 SE from what I am understand are simply there for all the old military rifles chambered for that cartridge than can't withstand high pressure modern cartridges. Yet we have many modern rifle manufacturers chambering new rifles in those cartridges (Sako and Tikka come to mind) and they are essentially handicapping the cartridge. I know this is only one example of an underpowered cartridge but I am sure there are others out there with the same problem, my guess is a lot of the old European military cartridges but that's a whole other can of worms with their oddball hunting laws regarding ex-military cartridges not being deemed suitable for civilian hunting use.</p><p></p><p>That being said there are also some great cartridges out there that were botched from the their inception by poor twist rates, poor rifle choices, suboptimal barrel length, etc. I know that SAAMI Is the reason for some cartridges never evolving, but some never had a chance! The 350 Remington Magnum or it's ballistic twin the 35 Whelen strike me as two cartridges that should be a lot more popular than they are given their usefulness in a variety of hunting scenarios and for the majority of big game in the lower 48 (albeit not at long range). But come on Remington….18 inch barrel rolling that cartridge out in the Model 600 with that hideous plastic trigger guard and shark fin? Then later the almost equally awful 673. Don't get me wrong, I actually love the 600/660 models, just not for the 350 Rem Mag or 6.5 Rem Mag and they should have made a few little changes to that rifle to make it the perfect handy little woods gun. Another fantastic heavy timber shorter range thumper the 338 Federal comes to mind as a head scratcher for why it never caught on. It has all of the elements to make a great brush gun: stopping power, good bullet selection, tolerable kick, good accuracy….no buyers. I did no man, I guess that's why we can handload.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jbronner13, post: 2626999, member: 123550"] I get your points by and agree to some extent but the SAAMI specs on the 6.5x55 SE from what I am understand are simply there for all the old military rifles chambered for that cartridge than can’t withstand high pressure modern cartridges. Yet we have many modern rifle manufacturers chambering new rifles in those cartridges (Sako and Tikka come to mind) and they are essentially handicapping the cartridge. I know this is only one example of an underpowered cartridge but I am sure there are others out there with the same problem, my guess is a lot of the old European military cartridges but that’s a whole other can of worms with their oddball hunting laws regarding ex-military cartridges not being deemed suitable for civilian hunting use. That being said there are also some great cartridges out there that were botched from the their inception by poor twist rates, poor rifle choices, suboptimal barrel length, etc. I know that SAAMI Is the reason for some cartridges never evolving, but some never had a chance! The 350 Remington Magnum or it’s ballistic twin the 35 Whelen strike me as two cartridges that should be a lot more popular than they are given their usefulness in a variety of hunting scenarios and for the majority of big game in the lower 48 (albeit not at long range). But come on Remington….18 inch barrel rolling that cartridge out in the Model 600 with that hideous plastic trigger guard and shark fin? Then later the almost equally awful 673. Don’t get me wrong, I actually love the 600/660 models, just not for the 350 Rem Mag or 6.5 Rem Mag and they should have made a few little changes to that rifle to make it the perfect handy little woods gun. Another fantastic heavy timber shorter range thumper the 338 Federal comes to mind as a head scratcher for why it never caught on. It has all of the elements to make a great brush gun: stopping power, good bullet selection, tolerable kick, good accuracy….no buyers. I did no man, I guess that’s why we can handload. [/QUOTE]
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