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<blockquote data-quote="Muddyboots" data-source="post: 1895618" data-attributes="member: 63925"><p>I've got a shelf of so called carbon cleaners that I tried to clean a really badly carboned 300WSM barrel from shooting tons of RL16 and drove me bananas (short trip I might add) and came to final conclusion of JB, Kroil, bronze brush and sore shoulder to clean it. You name it and I have it on shelf, CRC, Brakeklean, C4, Seafoam, GM and Mercury outboard carbon cleaners, Iosso, Flitz, KG, Slip 2000, and all sorts of penetrants like PB Blaster and Kroil. Heck I may need a HAZMAT team to dispose of the shelf!</p><p></p><p>So I wasn't really overly impressed with any of them but that was more associated with <strong><u>how poorly I didn't watched</u></strong> the carbon buildup and didn't recognize the problem until OHHHH CRAPPPP happened with pressure on normal loads. So my regiment is now to clean, no I need to say scrub, after 50 rounds and so far so good. I buy Sinclair brushes by the dozen so they don't last too long for the level of cleaning I want when I use RL16. I do use Wipeout and have used it for normal cleaning for quite a few years with really good success on copper but the carbon can still "creep" up and bite you if not careful. I never use to like taking a barrel down to clean steel but I am also seeing no really changes in POI so another learning curve for an old dog. Three or four shot and its good to go. I took for granted my standard cleaning regiment was acceptable and found out it wasn't which can be humbling when you have been cleaning rifles for 60+ years.</p><p></p><p>Any of the above carbon cleaners are probably effective for day to day routine maintenance but didn't cut through a hard carbon coating (probably closed to diamond hardness...ouch) that was allowed to accumulate due to my own ignorance. It took well over a dozen bronze brushes, lots of JB, Iosso, FLitz, Kroil and PB to get the barrel back but the real funny part of this whole episode is I decided to get new barrel anyway so wished I decided that before I needed PT on shoulder<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤔" title="Thinking face :thinking:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f914.png" data-shortname=":thinking:" /></p><p></p><p>I have seen some writings that stable temp powders may be more proned to carbon build up faster than we are normally accustomed to seeing with "normal" powders. Whatever that means.</p><p></p><p>I did see a recent advertisement on a product called: Link: <a href="https://www.shooterlube.com/?fbclid=IwAR0CIk3zuaNJ8K8LMFyJ-GSml9_oMdrXmaLHyQdLyzpF4asrYP1akcFNJXg" target="_blank">Shooters Lube</a></p><p></p><p>Anybody use this and have results to share?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Muddyboots, post: 1895618, member: 63925"] I've got a shelf of so called carbon cleaners that I tried to clean a really badly carboned 300WSM barrel from shooting tons of RL16 and drove me bananas (short trip I might add) and came to final conclusion of JB, Kroil, bronze brush and sore shoulder to clean it. You name it and I have it on shelf, CRC, Brakeklean, C4, Seafoam, GM and Mercury outboard carbon cleaners, Iosso, Flitz, KG, Slip 2000, and all sorts of penetrants like PB Blaster and Kroil. Heck I may need a HAZMAT team to dispose of the shelf! So I wasn't really overly impressed with any of them but that was more associated with [B][U]how poorly I didn't watched[/U][/B] the carbon buildup and didn't recognize the problem until OHHHH CRAPPPP happened with pressure on normal loads. So my regiment is now to clean, no I need to say scrub, after 50 rounds and so far so good. I buy Sinclair brushes by the dozen so they don't last too long for the level of cleaning I want when I use RL16. I do use Wipeout and have used it for normal cleaning for quite a few years with really good success on copper but the carbon can still "creep" up and bite you if not careful. I never use to like taking a barrel down to clean steel but I am also seeing no really changes in POI so another learning curve for an old dog. Three or four shot and its good to go. I took for granted my standard cleaning regiment was acceptable and found out it wasn't which can be humbling when you have been cleaning rifles for 60+ years. Any of the above carbon cleaners are probably effective for day to day routine maintenance but didn't cut through a hard carbon coating (probably closed to diamond hardness...ouch) that was allowed to accumulate due to my own ignorance. It took well over a dozen bronze brushes, lots of JB, Iosso, FLitz, Kroil and PB to get the barrel back but the real funny part of this whole episode is I decided to get new barrel anyway so wished I decided that before I needed PT on shoulder🤔 I have seen some writings that stable temp powders may be more proned to carbon build up faster than we are normally accustomed to seeing with "normal" powders. Whatever that means. I did see a recent advertisement on a product called: Link: [URL='https://www.shooterlube.com/?fbclid=IwAR0CIk3zuaNJ8K8LMFyJ-GSml9_oMdrXmaLHyQdLyzpF4asrYP1akcFNJXg']Shooters Lube[/URL] Anybody use this and have results to share? [/QUOTE]
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