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<blockquote data-quote="ntsqd" data-source="post: 3038456" data-attributes="member: 93138"><p>When Carbon fiber was first used to build bicycle frames they found the same thing, that the resulting frames were so stiff that they transmitted ALL of the road shock and few liked riding such a stiff frame. They were great for storming up a hill because that rigidity transferred all of the rider's power to the rear wheel, but were awful to ride a long distance in the saddle. The better frame builders started experimenting with the shape of all of the "tubes" in the frame or the shape of the monocoque to introduce some compliance. Specialized even has some urethane inserts in their seat stays. The claim is that those reduce road shock transmission to the saddle.</p><p></p><p>Carbon fiber/epoxy can make a pretty good spring, so it doesn't have to be stiff. It can be shaped to provide some recoil reduction. Imagine the whole of the butt-stock being reshaped so that it IS the "recoil pad." My crystal ball sees a time when anyone building a heavy recoiling caliber won't put any other stock on such a rifle. They will ask a forum which of the stock makers has done the best job of designing a recoil reducing carbon fiber stock. Bicycle frames have a roughly 20-25 year head start on this. Would be wise to look at what they're doing, why, and how successful each approach has been. A recoiling firearm is a totally different thing, but the lessons learned by the bicycle frame builders would be a huge starting point.</p><p></p><p>Kevlar was asked about. It is a very difficult material to get to 'wet out' with resin when building a composite part. There are places where nothing else will do and complex or expensive techniques ($$$) have evolved, but for most parts the juice isn't worth the squeeze.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ntsqd, post: 3038456, member: 93138"] When Carbon fiber was first used to build bicycle frames they found the same thing, that the resulting frames were so stiff that they transmitted ALL of the road shock and few liked riding such a stiff frame. They were great for storming up a hill because that rigidity transferred all of the rider's power to the rear wheel, but were awful to ride a long distance in the saddle. The better frame builders started experimenting with the shape of all of the "tubes" in the frame or the shape of the monocoque to introduce some compliance. Specialized even has some urethane inserts in their seat stays. The claim is that those reduce road shock transmission to the saddle. Carbon fiber/epoxy can make a pretty good spring, so it doesn't have to be stiff. It can be shaped to provide some recoil reduction. Imagine the whole of the butt-stock being reshaped so that it IS the "recoil pad." My crystal ball sees a time when anyone building a heavy recoiling caliber won't put any other stock on such a rifle. They will ask a forum which of the stock makers has done the best job of designing a recoil reducing carbon fiber stock. Bicycle frames have a roughly 20-25 year head start on this. Would be wise to look at what they're doing, why, and how successful each approach has been. A recoiling firearm is a totally different thing, but the lessons learned by the bicycle frame builders would be a huge starting point. Kevlar was asked about. It is a very difficult material to get to 'wet out' with resin when building a composite part. There are places where nothing else will do and complex or expensive techniques ($$$) have evolved, but for most parts the juice isn't worth the squeeze. [/QUOTE]
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