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<blockquote data-quote="tim_w" data-source="post: 1044432" data-attributes="member: 11132"><p>Yes that is it. Dang it you would thing after all these years I would stop flip flopping the names. Oh well I can not even keep my kids names straight so what do I expect LOL Thanks for the info. Actually I am fairly sure I tested both of those products and while IIRC it was one of those two bore techs that came in second place it was a huge margin. ....... </p><p></p><p>Ok I guess the stuff is on my old laptop but I found my notes about the ones I tested and it was the bore tech and while IIRC they both did show very quick reactions to the bullets in terms of the color of clear liq turning I think it was blue but different shades they seemed to hardly take but a few tenths of a grain off the bullet. At least over the 24hr period and I did not brush the bullets during the times only rinsed and wiped off vigorously. So maybe brushing is needed. I do not know if they have changed the recipe since as this was a few years ago. But as I recall they Bore tech are clear watery and then change to bluish color upon copper to indicate its there. </p><p></p><p>OK I tried to get my old laptop going but I can not find the **** cord and my ASUS does not fit my Toshiba. </p><p></p><p>But I did do a google search with my exact search string being: "bore tech cu+2 copper remover reviews" Ironically the very first hit in the list was of all things a test of it versus the KG12. What are the chances if that LOL</p><p></p><p> Here is the link: <a href="http://www.shootersforum.com/gun-cleaning/80374-copper-removal-test-boretech-vs-kg-12-a.html" target="_blank">Copper removal test: Boretech vs. KG-12 - Shooters Forum</a> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Here are some of his pics: </p><p></p><p><strong>Left to Right: </strong></p><p><strong>Bore Tech Cu+2</strong></p><p><strong>Bore Tech Eliminator</strong></p><p><strong>KG 12 Big Bore Cleaner</strong></p><p>Credit to MZ5 of shootersforum</p><p><img src="http://imageshack.us/a/img684/1319/img1572sf.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Credit to MZ5 of shootersforum</p><p><img src="http://imageshack.us/a/img684/9444/img1573xp.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>As you can see there is a huge difference in the Kg12 comparatively. Its not even close. The only dif is I used a solid copper bullet that are likley a more pure and higher quality and had them in glass and weighed them every time I took them out. I also used a very precise scale that is accurate to 0.1 mg and why I was able to measure even .001 grain differences. You are correct and this other test clearly shows that KG does not change color. But honestly I will take no color change for something that works that much better. Actually now that I think about it both my be the answer. Use the Bore Tech to let me know if there is copper and also to confirm the KG12 got it all out since it turns blue and neither have ammonia or anything that hurts the barrel and do not stink terribly.</p><p></p><p>Honestly if KG12 could have a way to add a color reaction to there product I do not think it would have a single weakness.</p><p></p><p>The way I work it is I run a wet patch down all my barrels at the range and that night when I get home I clean them and I have never takes very long at all. Nothing like the old Butch's Bore Shine days scrubbing and seeing pink elephants floating out of the walls not to mention the head aches afterwards. I was never good about proper ventilation. Hmm and now I can not keep my girls names straight or remember product names....wonder if they are connected.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>I use to use wipe out at the range and then the KG at home if needed but then tried just the wet patch of KG and that is all that was needed and a lot less messy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tim_w, post: 1044432, member: 11132"] Yes that is it. Dang it you would thing after all these years I would stop flip flopping the names. Oh well I can not even keep my kids names straight so what do I expect LOL Thanks for the info. Actually I am fairly sure I tested both of those products and while IIRC it was one of those two bore techs that came in second place it was a huge margin. ....... Ok I guess the stuff is on my old laptop but I found my notes about the ones I tested and it was the bore tech and while IIRC they both did show very quick reactions to the bullets in terms of the color of clear liq turning I think it was blue but different shades they seemed to hardly take but a few tenths of a grain off the bullet. At least over the 24hr period and I did not brush the bullets during the times only rinsed and wiped off vigorously. So maybe brushing is needed. I do not know if they have changed the recipe since as this was a few years ago. But as I recall they Bore tech are clear watery and then change to bluish color upon copper to indicate its there. OK I tried to get my old laptop going but I can not find the **** cord and my ASUS does not fit my Toshiba. But I did do a google search with my exact search string being: "bore tech cu+2 copper remover reviews" Ironically the very first hit in the list was of all things a test of it versus the KG12. What are the chances if that LOL Here is the link: [url=http://www.shootersforum.com/gun-cleaning/80374-copper-removal-test-boretech-vs-kg-12-a.html]Copper removal test: Boretech vs. KG-12 - Shooters Forum[/url] Here are some of his pics: [B]Left to Right: Bore Tech Cu+2 Bore Tech Eliminator KG 12 Big Bore Cleaner[/B] Credit to MZ5 of shootersforum [IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img684/1319/img1572sf.jpg[/IMG] Credit to MZ5 of shootersforum [IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img684/9444/img1573xp.jpg[/IMG] As you can see there is a huge difference in the Kg12 comparatively. Its not even close. The only dif is I used a solid copper bullet that are likley a more pure and higher quality and had them in glass and weighed them every time I took them out. I also used a very precise scale that is accurate to 0.1 mg and why I was able to measure even .001 grain differences. You are correct and this other test clearly shows that KG does not change color. But honestly I will take no color change for something that works that much better. Actually now that I think about it both my be the answer. Use the Bore Tech to let me know if there is copper and also to confirm the KG12 got it all out since it turns blue and neither have ammonia or anything that hurts the barrel and do not stink terribly. Honestly if KG12 could have a way to add a color reaction to there product I do not think it would have a single weakness. The way I work it is I run a wet patch down all my barrels at the range and that night when I get home I clean them and I have never takes very long at all. Nothing like the old Butch's Bore Shine days scrubbing and seeing pink elephants floating out of the walls not to mention the head aches afterwards. I was never good about proper ventilation. Hmm and now I can not keep my girls names straight or remember product names....wonder if they are connected.:rolleyes: I use to use wipe out at the range and then the KG at home if needed but then tried just the wet patch of KG and that is all that was needed and a lot less messy. [/QUOTE]
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