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<blockquote data-quote="iclick" data-source="post: 1933081" data-attributes="member: 90335"><p>I have experimented with copper bullets for over 6 years. There are five of us that hunt in NorCal and have found that for deer the best overall performance has come from The Lehigh Defense Controlled Chaos and the Cutting Edge Raptors. But they cost a bunch. We will use them for Elk and other class 3 game but for deer size and below we shoot the Chaos. The principal is to have a lead free bullet that performs like the old lead standby Nosler Partition. Take a look at their gel shot videos on YouTube to see examples of the design in work. The thing with lead free bullets is they are long for weight so you may find that by stepping down a weight will increase accuracy and performance on game. They need a bit more speed to perform. They also prefer a fairly large jump to the lands when seating them. </p><p>What we all found with the more traditional lead free designs they tend to go through so fast that even though they mushroom well they expend most of their energy outside the animal which means that many of our well placed heart or lung shots required more tracking. The guides that I work with all tell their customers to shoot for the front shoulder instead so that you can release more of the energy within an animal and pieces of the bone will cause more tissue damage. There is a good write up and video on copper bullets on the ballistic studies website here: Be aware that he shows some graphic images of wound channels etc.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/Homogenous+copper+bullets+can+be+inhumane.html[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Hope this helps. I have worked with them in .243, .257 Wby, 25 WSSM, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5-284 Norma, 6.8SPC, 270 Win, 300 B/O, 308, 300 Win Mag., 300WSM, 338 Federal, 35 Whelen, 450 Bushmaster as well as several handgun calibers. Load workups are basically the same as with lead only you need to step down in weight to maintain the speed needed for the lead free to perform as designed. And they will need to have a good jump to the lands. The elk in my avatar was taken with the 300 WSM at 182 yards with a Cutting Edge 150Gr. Long Range Raptor bullet. The core of the bullet made full penetration and the 6 petals were in a circle around the exit hole about 4 inches wide. Some actually exited but we found some embedded in the exit side rib cage and hide. The animal never took a step. The heart and both ribs had extensive damage from both the core and the pedals.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iclick, post: 1933081, member: 90335"] I have experimented with copper bullets for over 6 years. There are five of us that hunt in NorCal and have found that for deer the best overall performance has come from The Lehigh Defense Controlled Chaos and the Cutting Edge Raptors. But they cost a bunch. We will use them for Elk and other class 3 game but for deer size and below we shoot the Chaos. The principal is to have a lead free bullet that performs like the old lead standby Nosler Partition. Take a look at their gel shot videos on YouTube to see examples of the design in work. The thing with lead free bullets is they are long for weight so you may find that by stepping down a weight will increase accuracy and performance on game. They need a bit more speed to perform. They also prefer a fairly large jump to the lands when seating them. What we all found with the more traditional lead free designs they tend to go through so fast that even though they mushroom well they expend most of their energy outside the animal which means that many of our well placed heart or lung shots required more tracking. The guides that I work with all tell their customers to shoot for the front shoulder instead so that you can release more of the energy within an animal and pieces of the bone will cause more tissue damage. There is a good write up and video on copper bullets on the ballistic studies website here: Be aware that he shows some graphic images of wound channels etc. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/Homogenous+copper+bullets+can+be+inhumane.html[/URL] Hope this helps. I have worked with them in .243, .257 Wby, 25 WSSM, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5-284 Norma, 6.8SPC, 270 Win, 300 B/O, 308, 300 Win Mag., 300WSM, 338 Federal, 35 Whelen, 450 Bushmaster as well as several handgun calibers. Load workups are basically the same as with lead only you need to step down in weight to maintain the speed needed for the lead free to perform as designed. And they will need to have a good jump to the lands. The elk in my avatar was taken with the 300 WSM at 182 yards with a Cutting Edge 150Gr. Long Range Raptor bullet. The core of the bullet made full penetration and the 6 petals were in a circle around the exit hole about 4 inches wide. Some actually exited but we found some embedded in the exit side rib cage and hide. The animal never took a step. The heart and both ribs had extensive damage from both the core and the pedals. [/QUOTE]
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