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<blockquote data-quote="Pdvdh" data-source="post: 1197204" data-attributes="member: 4191"><p>Don't use the 185gr or 210gr Bergers. If you want to use a Berger bullet, listen to the sound advice. Use the 230gr bullet in a 300RUM, for the good reasons already provided.</p><p></p><p>AND - make certain the tips of the Bergers aren't pinched shut before you shoot an elk with one of them. I had a 300gr .338 OTM with the jacket tip pinched into a solid mass of copper during manufacturing. The bullet looked perfect from exterior shape. I had already meplat uniformed and then countersunk the tip of the bullet with Kevin Cram's meplat uniforming tools when I noticed the hollowpointing tool still hadn't reached down in deeply enough to open up a hole in the nose of the jacket. I then tried to drill a hole down into the jacket tip with a sharp drill bit following the small pilot hole created with the Kevin Cram countersinking/hollowpointing tool. Instead of the drill following any "pilot" hole into the tip of the bullet, <em>the bit exited the side of the bullet jacket about 3/16" down from the tip</em>! Next I used a grinder, followed by a hand file, on the tip of the bullet until I'd removed enough of the jacket tip to reach a void space. I then employed the drill again to complete a hole thru the blunted nose of the jacket. I later fired this bullet into an earthen hillside during barrel break-in of a new barrel on a 338 Lapua Rogue Improved - which was about the only remaining legitimate use for it.</p><p></p><p>IF the tip of a Berger bullet is sealed off like this one was, so is your fate if you shoot a large game animal with it. You might get lucky and happy, but you could end up hating life. They aren't intended to leave the Berger production line in this condition. (<em>Is this why Berger says they're not intended for hunting?</em>) It's up to you to ensure one of these FMJs doesn't leave your muzzle while shooting a large game animal. It doesn't take very long to inspect your bullets. This was an extreme example of a sealed (pinched off) tip. The other sealed tips I've found haven't been swaged down and sealed shut to nearly the extent this particular bullet was.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pdvdh, post: 1197204, member: 4191"] Don't use the 185gr or 210gr Bergers. If you want to use a Berger bullet, listen to the sound advice. Use the 230gr bullet in a 300RUM, for the good reasons already provided. AND - make certain the tips of the Bergers aren't pinched shut before you shoot an elk with one of them. I had a 300gr .338 OTM with the jacket tip pinched into a solid mass of copper during manufacturing. The bullet looked perfect from exterior shape. I had already meplat uniformed and then countersunk the tip of the bullet with Kevin Cram's meplat uniforming tools when I noticed the hollowpointing tool still hadn't reached down in deeply enough to open up a hole in the nose of the jacket. I then tried to drill a hole down into the jacket tip with a sharp drill bit following the small pilot hole created with the Kevin Cram countersinking/hollowpointing tool. Instead of the drill following any "pilot" hole into the tip of the bullet, [I]the bit exited the side of the bullet jacket about 3/16" down from the tip[/I]! Next I used a grinder, followed by a hand file, on the tip of the bullet until I'd removed enough of the jacket tip to reach a void space. I then employed the drill again to complete a hole thru the blunted nose of the jacket. I later fired this bullet into an earthen hillside during barrel break-in of a new barrel on a 338 Lapua Rogue Improved - which was about the only remaining legitimate use for it. IF the tip of a Berger bullet is sealed off like this one was, so is your fate if you shoot a large game animal with it. You might get lucky and happy, but you could end up hating life. They aren't intended to leave the Berger production line in this condition. ([I]Is this why Berger says they're not intended for hunting?[/I]) It's up to you to ensure one of these FMJs doesn't leave your muzzle while shooting a large game animal. It doesn't take very long to inspect your bullets. This was an extreme example of a sealed (pinched off) tip. The other sealed tips I've found haven't been swaged down and sealed shut to nearly the extent this particular bullet was. [/QUOTE]
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