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Bullet penciling question?
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<blockquote data-quote="LVJ76" data-source="post: 1664062" data-attributes="member: 108965"><p>Steve, you are correct. When shooting a 308 or 7mm-08 and using between 140gr and 168gr bullets that are pushed between 2,600 and 2,800 fps, a softer bullet is better, why?</p><p>1. Because they won't blow up at those speeds because they are designed for those speeds.</p><p>2. They are designed to expand and mushroom to continue penetrating.</p><p></p><p>Hornady SST, Nosler Ballistic Tips, Sierra Game Kings (lead tips), Hornady Interlocks and others work great at lower velocities.</p><p></p><p>Bonded, Partitioned and Monolithic bullets work better at higher magnum velocities, some but not all monolithics will not expand well at a low velocities, they must be pushed hard.</p><p></p><p>Match or Target bullets are designed for that, now do some accidentally also end up working well on hunting situations? Yes. Are they ideal for this? Provably not.</p><p></p><p>The reason hunting bullets fail is usually because they arent used correctly, soft bullets at high speeds or hard bullets at low speeds or bullet not appropriate for a specific type of game, etc.</p><p></p><p>Now, bullets of all brands will fail at one time or another. I once put 3 130gr Nosler Partitions from a 270 Win on a coues deer's boiler room at 375 yds, 3 bullets it took for him to go down, all 3 shots within 3 inches from each other and he still ran close to 150 yards. I found small holes on the lungs and heart because they did not expand and just penciled through. I used the rest of that box for practice. I've used partitions many many many timea in the past and never had an issue except for the case mentioned above.</p><p></p><p>Now I've seen a Ballistic Tip from a 308 Norma Mag get stuck on the neck of a mulie at 100 yds, and this bullet was screaming fast. I've seen a Speer SPBT from 30-06 hit the shoulder of a coues deer and get atuck right after entering the shoulder, No Blowup and No Penetration either.</p><p></p><p>But most issues I've seen are not bullet problems but shot placement.</p><p></p><p>Just my experience</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LVJ76, post: 1664062, member: 108965"] Steve, you are correct. When shooting a 308 or 7mm-08 and using between 140gr and 168gr bullets that are pushed between 2,600 and 2,800 fps, a softer bullet is better, why? 1. Because they won't blow up at those speeds because they are designed for those speeds. 2. They are designed to expand and mushroom to continue penetrating. Hornady SST, Nosler Ballistic Tips, Sierra Game Kings (lead tips), Hornady Interlocks and others work great at lower velocities. Bonded, Partitioned and Monolithic bullets work better at higher magnum velocities, some but not all monolithics will not expand well at a low velocities, they must be pushed hard. Match or Target bullets are designed for that, now do some accidentally also end up working well on hunting situations? Yes. Are they ideal for this? Provably not. The reason hunting bullets fail is usually because they arent used correctly, soft bullets at high speeds or hard bullets at low speeds or bullet not appropriate for a specific type of game, etc. Now, bullets of all brands will fail at one time or another. I once put 3 130gr Nosler Partitions from a 270 Win on a coues deer's boiler room at 375 yds, 3 bullets it took for him to go down, all 3 shots within 3 inches from each other and he still ran close to 150 yards. I found small holes on the lungs and heart because they did not expand and just penciled through. I used the rest of that box for practice. I've used partitions many many many timea in the past and never had an issue except for the case mentioned above. Now I've seen a Ballistic Tip from a 308 Norma Mag get stuck on the neck of a mulie at 100 yds, and this bullet was screaming fast. I've seen a Speer SPBT from 30-06 hit the shoulder of a coues deer and get atuck right after entering the shoulder, No Blowup and No Penetration either. But most issues I've seen are not bullet problems but shot placement. Just my experience [/QUOTE]
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