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<blockquote data-quote="RockyMtnMT" data-source="post: 1239168" data-attributes="member: 7999"><p>My first comment was snarky. I apologize for that.</p><p></p><p>I watched the video closely again. In my opinion both shots should have gotten the job done. The 1st shot was identical to my son's first elk. Same distance and shot placement. He was shooting 6.5-06 with 130g Siroccos. His shot was a few inches too far forward as well. The Sirocco went through the biggest part of the shoulder bone took the front of the lungs and then through the big shoulder bone on the far side. We found that bullet in the meat butchering her. The cow pushed herself down the hill on her chest with her back legs for about 30 yards and was dead. She was anchored and had no lungs. </p><p></p><p>The second shot was in the crease spot on. No two ways about it. I tried to find something wrong with that shot. No brush, as good as a hunting shot gets.</p><p></p><p>When the 3rd shot was taken you can see the entrance wound from the 1st shot. You can see it in the video after they recover her too. It is right in the meat of the shoulder. Not exactly where I would have wanted it, but should have got it done.</p><p></p><p>I fully expect to have poor performance from one of our bullets someday. It is just bound to happen. Chit happens when hunting. I expect that the day comes it will most likely be due to a stability issue. This may very well be what happened here. But even an under stabilized bullet on those shots should have tumbled deep enough to make a mess.</p><p></p><p>I think if there is a lesson to be had here it is that if you are going to use a frangible bullet on elk, the bigger the better. The farther over 200g the better chance you have of getting enough penetration. Get up to a 300g bullet and you get much more forgiveness for the frangibility. The more mass the frangible bullet has the longer it can disintegrate while penetrating.</p><p></p><p>I remember when I first started reloading I was loading 180 bt's in my 30-06. I was worried about shooting them at elk. The old man that taught me how to reload told me it would be fine. Just keep shooting until it is down. I never shot an elk with that bullet. I shot most of my elk back then with a bow.</p><p></p><p>I just hate to see a shooter blamed for poor shot placement when it is a real stretch to say so.</p><p></p><p>My .02 without being snarky.</p><p></p><p>Steve</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RockyMtnMT, post: 1239168, member: 7999"] My first comment was snarky. I apologize for that. I watched the video closely again. In my opinion both shots should have gotten the job done. The 1st shot was identical to my son's first elk. Same distance and shot placement. He was shooting 6.5-06 with 130g Siroccos. His shot was a few inches too far forward as well. The Sirocco went through the biggest part of the shoulder bone took the front of the lungs and then through the big shoulder bone on the far side. We found that bullet in the meat butchering her. The cow pushed herself down the hill on her chest with her back legs for about 30 yards and was dead. She was anchored and had no lungs. The second shot was in the crease spot on. No two ways about it. I tried to find something wrong with that shot. No brush, as good as a hunting shot gets. When the 3rd shot was taken you can see the entrance wound from the 1st shot. You can see it in the video after they recover her too. It is right in the meat of the shoulder. Not exactly where I would have wanted it, but should have got it done. I fully expect to have poor performance from one of our bullets someday. It is just bound to happen. Chit happens when hunting. I expect that the day comes it will most likely be due to a stability issue. This may very well be what happened here. But even an under stabilized bullet on those shots should have tumbled deep enough to make a mess. I think if there is a lesson to be had here it is that if you are going to use a frangible bullet on elk, the bigger the better. The farther over 200g the better chance you have of getting enough penetration. Get up to a 300g bullet and you get much more forgiveness for the frangibility. The more mass the frangible bullet has the longer it can disintegrate while penetrating. I remember when I first started reloading I was loading 180 bt's in my 30-06. I was worried about shooting them at elk. The old man that taught me how to reload told me it would be fine. Just keep shooting until it is down. I never shot an elk with that bullet. I shot most of my elk back then with a bow. I just hate to see a shooter blamed for poor shot placement when it is a real stretch to say so. My .02 without being snarky. Steve [/QUOTE]
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