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<blockquote data-quote="AKSavage" data-source="post: 1258454" data-attributes="member: 95938"><p>This being a long range hunting forum, I'll describe a scope designed for that. For under 400 yards I don't need the extra power and a BDC reticle is adequate. Even if I don't shoot critters out to 1000 yards, there's a lot to be learned by practicing at ranges from 600-1200 yards, so I'd like a hunting scope that can do that well.</p><p></p><p>*3-18 or 4-20 power would be fine. (The 3-24 on the March scopes is nice but only if such a large power range doesn't come at the expense of other optical factors such as fine focus, field of view, reticle thickness, or ups the cost into the stratosphere)</p><p></p><p>*wide, low profile turrets- they need to be wide to allow for adequate spacing between clicks/numbers</p><p></p><p>*turrets absolutely must track and return to zero reliably.</p><p></p><p>*capped elevation turret- threaded for a cap but functional without one so you could have it capped while packing in and either capped or uncapped while hunting. Uncapped but locking elevation would be fine too, but I like the idea of being able to protect it while not hunting.</p><p></p><p>*capped windage turret- numbered 0, 1L/R, 2L/R etc</p><p></p><p>*20-25 MOA per revolution (but not limited to only one revolution)</p><p></p><p>*18-22 oz scope weight. This is one area where few manufacturers are on board yet. Most hunting rifles get carried and packed a lot, and putting a 30 oz scope on a hunting rifle just doesn't make sense to me.</p><p></p><p>*zero stop on elevation turret</p><p></p><p>*well designed etched glass FFP reticle: 1 MOA hash marks on vertical and horizontal posts, with Christmas tree dots below. Simply put its nice to have options. Dial or hold for wind/elevation. Hash marks valid at more than one power (or if you forget to check your power setting!) I think one reason SFP is still so popular with hunters is that few hunting scopes come with good FFP reticles. Vortex EBR-2/7 and XLR reticles have it pretty much right. Solid aiming point at low power, but still thin/precise enough at high power. This is also where extreme power ranges make it trickier, but not impossible.</p><p></p><p>*matching (mil/mil or MOA/MOA) turrets and reticles.</p><p></p><p>*good glass and optical design- I don't need </p><p></p><p>The Swarovski s5 has the glass, power range, and the weight right, but the turrets, reticle, limited elevation are not up to snuff. If Leupold made a FFP VX-6 3-18x44 with a TMOA reticle I'd own more than one right now. Athlon is on track, especially with the Ares scopes coming out next February, but they still weigh close to 30oz. Same goes with Bushnell Elite LRHS. Great glass and so close...almost not too heavy. If Vortex cross-bred their Razor HD LH and Viper HS LR to get a 20oz FFP Razor LH with an XLR reticle. I'd buy several.</p><p></p><p>Of all the scopes the March 3-24 FFP models are the closest. Others have mentioned the 2.5-25 March scope as well. But they are pretty dang spendy. If someone else could do all the features of the March scopes with 90% of the glass quality for under $1000, I think that would sell a lot of scopes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AKSavage, post: 1258454, member: 95938"] This being a long range hunting forum, I'll describe a scope designed for that. For under 400 yards I don't need the extra power and a BDC reticle is adequate. Even if I don't shoot critters out to 1000 yards, there's a lot to be learned by practicing at ranges from 600-1200 yards, so I'd like a hunting scope that can do that well. *3-18 or 4-20 power would be fine. (The 3-24 on the March scopes is nice but only if such a large power range doesn't come at the expense of other optical factors such as fine focus, field of view, reticle thickness, or ups the cost into the stratosphere) *wide, low profile turrets- they need to be wide to allow for adequate spacing between clicks/numbers *turrets absolutely must track and return to zero reliably. *capped elevation turret- threaded for a cap but functional without one so you could have it capped while packing in and either capped or uncapped while hunting. Uncapped but locking elevation would be fine too, but I like the idea of being able to protect it while not hunting. *capped windage turret- numbered 0, 1L/R, 2L/R etc *20-25 MOA per revolution (but not limited to only one revolution) *18-22 oz scope weight. This is one area where few manufacturers are on board yet. Most hunting rifles get carried and packed a lot, and putting a 30 oz scope on a hunting rifle just doesn't make sense to me. *zero stop on elevation turret *well designed etched glass FFP reticle: 1 MOA hash marks on vertical and horizontal posts, with Christmas tree dots below. Simply put its nice to have options. Dial or hold for wind/elevation. Hash marks valid at more than one power (or if you forget to check your power setting!) I think one reason SFP is still so popular with hunters is that few hunting scopes come with good FFP reticles. Vortex EBR-2/7 and XLR reticles have it pretty much right. Solid aiming point at low power, but still thin/precise enough at high power. This is also where extreme power ranges make it trickier, but not impossible. *matching (mil/mil or MOA/MOA) turrets and reticles. *good glass and optical design- I don't need The Swarovski s5 has the glass, power range, and the weight right, but the turrets, reticle, limited elevation are not up to snuff. If Leupold made a FFP VX-6 3-18x44 with a TMOA reticle I'd own more than one right now. Athlon is on track, especially with the Ares scopes coming out next February, but they still weigh close to 30oz. Same goes with Bushnell Elite LRHS. Great glass and so close...almost not too heavy. If Vortex cross-bred their Razor HD LH and Viper HS LR to get a 20oz FFP Razor LH with an XLR reticle. I'd buy several. Of all the scopes the March 3-24 FFP models are the closest. Others have mentioned the 2.5-25 March scope as well. But they are pretty dang spendy. If someone else could do all the features of the March scopes with 90% of the glass quality for under $1000, I think that would sell a lot of scopes. [/QUOTE]
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