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AR15/10 Rifles
Best off the shelf AR-10 in .308
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<blockquote data-quote="Send_It" data-source="post: 615711" data-attributes="member: 28841"><p>Wiicgun,</p><p> </p><p>Your criteria centers around only one thing...Accuracy. A factory 308AR with a decent barrel can outshoot most shooters out there. My factory DPMS 308 is capable of printing very small roups with handloads it likes. My smallest group shot is 5-shots measuring .144" at 100yards (havent been able to duplicate this...next tightest group was .252" @ 100yards). This is with a factory barrel that had the diameter reduced under the handguard to .750" in order to lighten it up for service as my primary hunting rifle.</p><p> </p><p>Accuracy around ARs centers around two main things; barrel and trigger. Of course, other secondary factors such as quality of ammo, shooter skill, good rests, etc also factor in, however, no combination of these secondary factors can compensate for crappy trigger or crappy barrel.</p><p> </p><p>You can buy a cheap (factory) AR and upgrade to a match grade barrel and an outstanding trigger for a fraction of the cost of buying from a custom shop. However, the resale value will never match what you can get by selling an AR from a custom shop.</p><p> </p><p>If your son is looking to buy a longrange beast for shooting F-class, highpower, or other competitions, then by all means, spend the extra dough and order something from a custom shop (I highly recommend GAP-10 by George Gardner) if he is a casual shooter, and just looking for something he can get respectable groups with, then save money and buy a factory set-up. Spend the extra money on optics and relaoding components and shootout the factory barrel. This is not to say he cant compete with a factory gun, just that the custom guns wil be known quantity from day one.</p><p> </p><p>My $0.02.</p><p> </p><p>Send_It!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Send_It, post: 615711, member: 28841"] Wiicgun, Your criteria centers around only one thing...Accuracy. A factory 308AR with a decent barrel can outshoot most shooters out there. My factory DPMS 308 is capable of printing very small roups with handloads it likes. My smallest group shot is 5-shots measuring .144" at 100yards (havent been able to duplicate this...next tightest group was .252" @ 100yards). This is with a factory barrel that had the diameter reduced under the handguard to .750" in order to lighten it up for service as my primary hunting rifle. Accuracy around ARs centers around two main things; barrel and trigger. Of course, other secondary factors such as quality of ammo, shooter skill, good rests, etc also factor in, however, no combination of these secondary factors can compensate for crappy trigger or crappy barrel. You can buy a cheap (factory) AR and upgrade to a match grade barrel and an outstanding trigger for a fraction of the cost of buying from a custom shop. However, the resale value will never match what you can get by selling an AR from a custom shop. If your son is looking to buy a longrange beast for shooting F-class, highpower, or other competitions, then by all means, spend the extra dough and order something from a custom shop (I highly recommend GAP-10 by George Gardner) if he is a casual shooter, and just looking for something he can get respectable groups with, then save money and buy a factory set-up. Spend the extra money on optics and relaoding components and shootout the factory barrel. This is not to say he cant compete with a factory gun, just that the custom guns wil be known quantity from day one. My $0.02. Send_It! [/QUOTE]
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