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<blockquote data-quote="Bullmark" data-source="post: 2207378" data-attributes="member: 113003"><p>Brother, it sounds like you deserve whatever your heart desires. I've never had a single regret after buying top shelf optics. My business went through a very tough situation a few years back and I was forced to sell a safe full of custom rifles w/nice scopes, some old collectible Superposed shotguns, and a prime tract of southern Iowa ground.....and believe me, it hurt like the devil. </p><p>Thankfully the we righted the ship and I'm filling up the safe again. This time I'm going with quality over quantity.....how many 7mm rifles does a man need anyway? So over the last 3 yrs I've had a few rifles built and put a lot of thought into what glass to mount on each one. </p><p>I wanted a specific reticle and it eliminated a few companies that I'm sure make great stuff...Tangent Theta for example. I wanted a basic duplex, nothing fancy or busy, with an illum red dot center....not a plus sign (+), it had to be a single dot. I didn't want an entire reticle lighting up...for me they project too much glare and affect the rest of the sight picture. </p><p>I'm not a long range shooter, but I do practice at longer ranges, which for me is 500-600 yds. I prefer to dial yardages, so a turret with zero stop and good sharp clicks was mandatory. Other than those requirements, the optical quality being excellent (because my eyes are also getting old) was only other one. I never considered weight....until I bought a scope that changed that. </p><p>I tried a few different scopes that my friends had, and bought a Nightforce Atacr. Loved the scope, but the plus sign reticle wasn't as appealing to me as a dot, but I could have lived with it. The optical quality was a 9.5/10, which is great. The deal breaker for me was the weight....entirely too heavy for me. I sold it not long after buying. </p><p>I ended up with 2 S&Bs (a Polar and an Exos), a Swaro Z8i and a Leica Magnus. All bought as demos for at least 20% off the lowest retail I could find. </p><p>In my humble opinion, the Leica is the closest thing to a combination of the strengths of the others. Optically the best when grading the brightness, clarity, edge to edge distortion, etc is probably the Swaro Z8i...but only by the thinnest of margins. Someone else may prefer one of the others. All 4 are 10/10 for my eyes. </p><p>The ruggedness and durability has to be either of the S&B's....with the Leica coming in second.....the Swaro is the least tactical feeling. </p><p>The turrets would def be the S&Bs. Leica a close second, Swaro feels great but doesn't appear nearly as durable and able to withstand punishment. </p><p>The weight goes to Swaro....very light for a 2-18x56. Leica only 2-3 oz heavier, both S&Bs approx 6 and 9 oz heavier. </p><p>The one category where the Leica wins out is dealing with glare from the sun. I'm not sure why, but it is noticeably better at cutting the glare. </p><p>Price wise, I was able to get all 4 for very similar prices, within $200 of each other. </p><p>Overall, for me, when looking at the totality of things, the Leica Magnus 2.3-18x56 w/ illum 4a reticle wins out. </p><p>For the record, I got mine at EuroOptics and last time I looked they still had them either as demos or just marked down. </p><p>Mine is sitting on my smokeless muzz, looking forward to late season. </p><p>I hope someone can get some benefit from my amateur review.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bullmark, post: 2207378, member: 113003"] Brother, it sounds like you deserve whatever your heart desires. I’ve never had a single regret after buying top shelf optics. My business went through a very tough situation a few years back and I was forced to sell a safe full of custom rifles w/nice scopes, some old collectible Superposed shotguns, and a prime tract of southern Iowa ground.....and believe me, it hurt like the devil. Thankfully the we righted the ship and I’m filling up the safe again. This time I’m going with quality over quantity.....how many 7mm rifles does a man need anyway? So over the last 3 yrs I’ve had a few rifles built and put a lot of thought into what glass to mount on each one. I wanted a specific reticle and it eliminated a few companies that I’m sure make great stuff...Tangent Theta for example. I wanted a basic duplex, nothing fancy or busy, with an illum red dot center....not a plus sign (+), it had to be a single dot. I didn’t want an entire reticle lighting up...for me they project too much glare and affect the rest of the sight picture. I’m not a long range shooter, but I do practice at longer ranges, which for me is 500-600 yds. I prefer to dial yardages, so a turret with zero stop and good sharp clicks was mandatory. Other than those requirements, the optical quality being excellent (because my eyes are also getting old) was only other one. I never considered weight....until I bought a scope that changed that. I tried a few different scopes that my friends had, and bought a Nightforce Atacr. Loved the scope, but the plus sign reticle wasn’t as appealing to me as a dot, but I could have lived with it. The optical quality was a 9.5/10, which is great. The deal breaker for me was the weight....entirely too heavy for me. I sold it not long after buying. I ended up with 2 S&Bs (a Polar and an Exos), a Swaro Z8i and a Leica Magnus. All bought as demos for at least 20% off the lowest retail I could find. In my humble opinion, the Leica is the closest thing to a combination of the strengths of the others. Optically the best when grading the brightness, clarity, edge to edge distortion, etc is probably the Swaro Z8i...but only by the thinnest of margins. Someone else may prefer one of the others. All 4 are 10/10 for my eyes. The ruggedness and durability has to be either of the S&B’s....with the Leica coming in second.....the Swaro is the least tactical feeling. The turrets would def be the S&Bs. Leica a close second, Swaro feels great but doesn’t appear nearly as durable and able to withstand punishment. The weight goes to Swaro....very light for a 2-18x56. Leica only 2-3 oz heavier, both S&Bs approx 6 and 9 oz heavier. The one category where the Leica wins out is dealing with glare from the sun. I’m not sure why, but it is noticeably better at cutting the glare. Price wise, I was able to get all 4 for very similar prices, within $200 of each other. Overall, for me, when looking at the totality of things, the Leica Magnus 2.3-18x56 w/ illum 4a reticle wins out. For the record, I got mine at EuroOptics and last time I looked they still had them either as demos or just marked down. Mine is sitting on my smokeless muzz, looking forward to late season. I hope someone can get some benefit from my amateur review. [/QUOTE]
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