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<blockquote data-quote="MudRunner2005" data-source="post: 1178506" data-attributes="member: 12995"><p>Get the 5R Milspec over the VTR...Better rifling, better barrel material. They call it the 5R Milspec because it is essentially a stainless steel version of the world-renowned M24 sniper rifle. The 5R barrels are made of the very same M24 barrel stock that Remington uses for the M24 (416R stainless steel), and use the Obermeyer-style 5R rifling, also developed and used in the M24 rifles. The main differences are that the triggers are different (M24 uses a 40-X trigger, the 5R comes with the X-Mark Pro, which is a lawyer-proof piece of junk), the stocks are essentially the same HS Precision stocks (but finished in different colors), but the M24 stock has adjustable comb and length-of-pull, the barrel contour for the M24 is a little bit heavier. And the M24 is cerakoted flat black. Other than that, they are basically the same rifle.</p><p></p><p>The Viper PST's are nice scopes, but I feel you get more for your money with the HS-T scopes. Illuminated reticles are overrated, IMO, and 99.99% of the time they go unused and unneeded. Personal preference, but I prefer SFP (Second Focal Plane) scopes over FFP (First Focal Plane) scopes also. So, to me, the only real advantage of the PST over the HS-T is that the PST has an etched-glass reticle, and the HS-T has a wire reticle...That being said, to me thats not worth the extra $300. But unless you're shooting with muzzle brakes, or huge recoiling rifles like a .50 BMG, then the wire reticles should hold up just fine. I've never had any issues, and I've shot some really cheap scopes on some large magnum caliber rifles. The only one I ever had a problem with was an old Simmons Aetec scope on an ultra-lightweight Ruger M77 MKII 7mmRM that kicked like a mule...But I think after that many shots over that many years, just about any scope would give up the ghost on that rifle.</p><p></p><p>I honestly think they use the same glass and lens coatings on the HS-T and PST scopes, as well. Comparing them side-by-side at the range. So really, the etched-glass reticle, FFP, and illuminated reticle are about the only differences, for $300 more. To those who prefer a FFP scope, that $300 might be justifiable, but being that I prefer the SFP scopes, for me, it is not. It's all a matter of personal preference.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MudRunner2005, post: 1178506, member: 12995"] Get the 5R Milspec over the VTR...Better rifling, better barrel material. They call it the 5R Milspec because it is essentially a stainless steel version of the world-renowned M24 sniper rifle. The 5R barrels are made of the very same M24 barrel stock that Remington uses for the M24 (416R stainless steel), and use the Obermeyer-style 5R rifling, also developed and used in the M24 rifles. The main differences are that the triggers are different (M24 uses a 40-X trigger, the 5R comes with the X-Mark Pro, which is a lawyer-proof piece of junk), the stocks are essentially the same HS Precision stocks (but finished in different colors), but the M24 stock has adjustable comb and length-of-pull, the barrel contour for the M24 is a little bit heavier. And the M24 is cerakoted flat black. Other than that, they are basically the same rifle. The Viper PST's are nice scopes, but I feel you get more for your money with the HS-T scopes. Illuminated reticles are overrated, IMO, and 99.99% of the time they go unused and unneeded. Personal preference, but I prefer SFP (Second Focal Plane) scopes over FFP (First Focal Plane) scopes also. So, to me, the only real advantage of the PST over the HS-T is that the PST has an etched-glass reticle, and the HS-T has a wire reticle...That being said, to me thats not worth the extra $300. But unless you're shooting with muzzle brakes, or huge recoiling rifles like a .50 BMG, then the wire reticles should hold up just fine. I've never had any issues, and I've shot some really cheap scopes on some large magnum caliber rifles. The only one I ever had a problem with was an old Simmons Aetec scope on an ultra-lightweight Ruger M77 MKII 7mmRM that kicked like a mule...But I think after that many shots over that many years, just about any scope would give up the ghost on that rifle. I honestly think they use the same glass and lens coatings on the HS-T and PST scopes, as well. Comparing them side-by-side at the range. So really, the etched-glass reticle, FFP, and illuminated reticle are about the only differences, for $300 more. To those who prefer a FFP scope, that $300 might be justifiable, but being that I prefer the SFP scopes, for me, it is not. It's all a matter of personal preference. [/QUOTE]
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