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<blockquote data-quote="azsugarbear" data-source="post: 1142320" data-attributes="member: 4809"><p>To my understanding, there has been no exhaustive or even scientific study on Berger bullets failing to open. What you are reading about is anecdotal evidence. Bear in mind, I am not discrediting these experiences in any way. I'm just stating that there has been no definitive, scientific study to determine if there is even a problem. There have been some bullets that have failed to open up, but I believe that is to be found with nearly all bullets. I don't believe there is a single bullet out there that performs exactly the same 100% of the time. We continue that search for the 'Holy Grail' of bullets.</p><p> </p><p>In LR hunting, there always seems to be a trade off. To get something, you gotta give up something. More steel around the barrel usually equates to better, more repeatable accuracy. We move to carbon wrapped barrels to get both the accuracy and weight savings, but get hit hard in the wallet. With bullets we tend to see more of the same. I love the Barnes bullets. When it comes to hitting bone or dumping an animal at close range, they are my go-to bullet. However, their BC leaves me wanting for the LR shots.</p><p> </p><p>Berger has a great hunting bullet with a great BC. It tends to dump most (if not all) of its energy in an animal, but it doesn't always perform well on bone at closer distances. So you have to choose the model/bullet that best fits your overall hunting situations. I shoot Berger in most of my rigs, but I tuck away in the back of my mind that high shoulder shots are suspect when taken at shorter ranges. In those situations, I go for the boiler room.</p><p> </p><p>Regarding the clogging of some Berger hollow points: that was a problem noted a few years ago. I think their QC has largely solved that problem. But Berger continues to study and address the rare 'penciling' situation that occurs. </p><p> </p><p>There are threads on LRH where members describe 'annealing' their Berger tips to solve this potential problem. While these members feel it largely solves the problem, Berger neither recommends nor endorses the action. Others (like myself) have gone to uniforming the tips and chamfering the hollow points. I do this more for accurate COL measurements and the consistency in flight than bullet performance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="azsugarbear, post: 1142320, member: 4809"] To my understanding, there has been no exhaustive or even scientific study on Berger bullets failing to open. What you are reading about is anecdotal evidence. Bear in mind, I am not discrediting these experiences in any way. I'm just stating that there has been no definitive, scientific study to determine if there is even a problem. There have been some bullets that have failed to open up, but I believe that is to be found with nearly all bullets. I don't believe there is a single bullet out there that performs exactly the same 100% of the time. We continue that search for the 'Holy Grail' of bullets. In LR hunting, there always seems to be a trade off. To get something, you gotta give up something. More steel around the barrel usually equates to better, more repeatable accuracy. We move to carbon wrapped barrels to get both the accuracy and weight savings, but get hit hard in the wallet. With bullets we tend to see more of the same. I love the Barnes bullets. When it comes to hitting bone or dumping an animal at close range, they are my go-to bullet. However, their BC leaves me wanting for the LR shots. Berger has a great hunting bullet with a great BC. It tends to dump most (if not all) of its energy in an animal, but it doesn't always perform well on bone at closer distances. So you have to choose the model/bullet that best fits your overall hunting situations. I shoot Berger in most of my rigs, but I tuck away in the back of my mind that high shoulder shots are suspect when taken at shorter ranges. In those situations, I go for the boiler room. Regarding the clogging of some Berger hollow points: that was a problem noted a few years ago. I think their QC has largely solved that problem. But Berger continues to study and address the rare 'penciling' situation that occurs. There are threads on LRH where members describe 'annealing' their Berger tips to solve this potential problem. While these members feel it largely solves the problem, Berger neither recommends nor endorses the action. Others (like myself) have gone to uniforming the tips and chamfering the hollow points. I do this more for accurate COL measurements and the consistency in flight than bullet performance. [/QUOTE]
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