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belted magnums good bad or just ugly?
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<blockquote data-quote="J E Custom" data-source="post: 1726974" data-attributes="member: 2736"><p>They are still alive and kicking. And in many cases better for dangerous game because of the safety factor they offer to the hunter. There are many very popular cartridges that are belted and the chances of them being replaced are slim to none.</p><p>The only reason manufactures tend to come out with shouldered cases is the fact that the belted case have more steps to form the brass and that makes the belted cases cost more to produce.</p><p></p><p>When I hear someone say that belted case are bad and they wouldn't have one, I just assume that they don't know the value of the design and its purpose. I have all of the different designs of cartridges and some are better than others for certain uses. There are many different designs that require different ways to set head space. The belt is just one of them.</p><p></p><p>One of the unusual cartridges that a belt is used to solve another problem is the 450 Marlin. It is a straight sided case that uses a belt to head space instead of the case mouth (Like the 45 ACP that requires constant trimming to keep the head space constant) This was a very good way to solve an old problem Without having to go to a rimed case and having the feeding problems associated with rimed cases.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>They also are the easiest to wildcat because you don't have to do a false shoulder or jam the bullet in to the lands to fire form. I have fire formed cases that were 103 grain capacity to 119 grains with zero problems with pressure and trouble. another wild cat based on a case capacity of 122 grains to 144. (No problems) Some times firing forming a non belted can be dicey if you don't know much about fire forming</p><p>wildcats.</p><p></p><p>J E CUSTOM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J E Custom, post: 1726974, member: 2736"] They are still alive and kicking. And in many cases better for dangerous game because of the safety factor they offer to the hunter. There are many very popular cartridges that are belted and the chances of them being replaced are slim to none. The only reason manufactures tend to come out with shouldered cases is the fact that the belted case have more steps to form the brass and that makes the belted cases cost more to produce. When I hear someone say that belted case are bad and they wouldn't have one, I just assume that they don't know the value of the design and its purpose. I have all of the different designs of cartridges and some are better than others for certain uses. There are many different designs that require different ways to set head space. The belt is just one of them. One of the unusual cartridges that a belt is used to solve another problem is the 450 Marlin. It is a straight sided case that uses a belt to head space instead of the case mouth (Like the 45 ACP that requires constant trimming to keep the head space constant) This was a very good way to solve an old problem Without having to go to a rimed case and having the feeding problems associated with rimed cases. They also are the easiest to wildcat because you don't have to do a false shoulder or jam the bullet in to the lands to fire form. I have fire formed cases that were 103 grain capacity to 119 grains with zero problems with pressure and trouble. another wild cat based on a case capacity of 122 grains to 144. (No problems) Some times firing forming a non belted can be dicey if you don't know much about fire forming wildcats. J E CUSTOM [/QUOTE]
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