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Badlands Precision Bullets thread - From BC to terminal ballistics
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<blockquote data-quote="nralifer" data-source="post: 2945842" data-attributes="member: 94556"><p>I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. Are you trying to justify the use of lead cores over copper bullets? Pictures of isolated damaged organs don't reveal much about the bullet performance because data on angle of impact, depth of penetration, impact velocity and distance of the shot and whether it was the only shot taken or whether it was the second or third shot, is missing. Throughout all my posts I emphasize these points and give data whenever it's available. You, or anyone else will never convince me that lead cores or low BC plastic tipped or untipped copper bullets are better than the high BC aluminum tipped bullets we make. I have been hunting big game off and on for over 40 years, the vast majority of the time with lead cores because that was all there was available. Went to Barnes for a couple of years and they were clearly better than lead cores at short distances but I found out they were unreliable in expansion. When they worked, they worked great, but much beyond 350-400 yds they were not expanding reliably. When I had the same problem of unreliable expansion even at less than 100 yds I decided that if I could find or make a more reliable bullet with a broader and more reliable performance envelope, I would do it. Because a lead core bullet can kill things is no indication of superiority. You can kill animals with rock salt or a lead ball. Lead cores are lousy bullets in quartering shots whereas copper bullets are much better. Our bullets are very reliable at even greater distances than other copper bullets because of the greater BCs. The BD2 line will do anything the BD line will do except at 100-200 yds further out. We did that to out do some of the claims of our competition. There clearly is a strong trend in marketing claims theses days to emphasize BC, something we have emphasized now for about 9 years. One may chose to believe us or not, but the proof is in the pudding. If one is not willing to try our bullets on several hunts then they can't make convincing arguments for or against.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nralifer, post: 2945842, member: 94556"] I’m not sure what point you are trying to make. Are you trying to justify the use of lead cores over copper bullets? Pictures of isolated damaged organs don’t reveal much about the bullet performance because data on angle of impact, depth of penetration, impact velocity and distance of the shot and whether it was the only shot taken or whether it was the second or third shot, is missing. Throughout all my posts I emphasize these points and give data whenever it’s available. You, or anyone else will never convince me that lead cores or low BC plastic tipped or untipped copper bullets are better than the high BC aluminum tipped bullets we make. I have been hunting big game off and on for over 40 years, the vast majority of the time with lead cores because that was all there was available. Went to Barnes for a couple of years and they were clearly better than lead cores at short distances but I found out they were unreliable in expansion. When they worked, they worked great, but much beyond 350-400 yds they were not expanding reliably. When I had the same problem of unreliable expansion even at less than 100 yds I decided that if I could find or make a more reliable bullet with a broader and more reliable performance envelope, I would do it. Because a lead core bullet can kill things is no indication of superiority. You can kill animals with rock salt or a lead ball. Lead cores are lousy bullets in quartering shots whereas copper bullets are much better. Our bullets are very reliable at even greater distances than other copper bullets because of the greater BCs. The BD2 line will do anything the BD line will do except at 100-200 yds further out. We did that to out do some of the claims of our competition. There clearly is a strong trend in marketing claims theses days to emphasize BC, something we have emphasized now for about 9 years. One may chose to believe us or not, but the proof is in the pudding. If one is not willing to try our bullets on several hunts then they can’t make convincing arguments for or against. [/QUOTE]
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