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Badlands Precision Bullets thread - From BC to terminal ballistics
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<blockquote data-quote="aebhunter" data-source="post: 2733114" data-attributes="member: 72979"><p>That was the issue, usually my outliers were the cold bore shots. Some where 1.5-2 MOA out from the center of the group. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I shoot an 18" Proof Sendero. All my hunting rifles have Proof Sendero contours, the longest barrel I have on a hunting rifle is 22" the rest are 20". Part of the reason I shoot those barrels is I notice very little, if any, POI change from suppressed to unsuppressed, amongst other things. Whatever the formula is, it seems to work. Conversely, my competition guns have 24" "competition contour" barrels and are like truck axles. I have virtually the same performance. Those guns I shoot 10 shot groups with, both zeroing and at distance. This emulates some of the matches I shoot that have long, 10-12 shot strings over a relatively short time frame. Once I find a load that works and will group well, I typically shoot a dot drill when I practice to avoid getting "group anxiety". I shoot MOA dots out to around 600, If I am around center of target, that is a win.</p><p></p><p>My standards for accuracy and precision stay the same for all my bolt action guns (semi auto are a different story), no matter the application. I haven't given up on these bullets, it's just been a really long time since I had to "work" to get a load to shoot. For my hunting guns, I usually load to about 30 thou short of mag length, try a few powder charges, and shoot the load that produces the best results. Admittedly, I am not a real big fan of "load tinkering". It reminds me of the days when I first started reloading for factory rifles, which seemed to be way harder to load for.</p><p></p><p></p><p>My "other" load is a mono. Those are the ones I actually couldn't find a load that wouldn't shoot. Easily the most forgiving bullet I have ever shot, more so than the berger hybrid even. The only issue I have with those is the low BC. I really could care less about the elevation, but they aren't real forgiving in the wind, which is the most important benefit of a high BC bullet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aebhunter, post: 2733114, member: 72979"] That was the issue, usually my outliers were the cold bore shots. Some where 1.5-2 MOA out from the center of the group. I shoot an 18" Proof Sendero. All my hunting rifles have Proof Sendero contours, the longest barrel I have on a hunting rifle is 22" the rest are 20". Part of the reason I shoot those barrels is I notice very little, if any, POI change from suppressed to unsuppressed, amongst other things. Whatever the formula is, it seems to work. Conversely, my competition guns have 24" "competition contour" barrels and are like truck axles. I have virtually the same performance. Those guns I shoot 10 shot groups with, both zeroing and at distance. This emulates some of the matches I shoot that have long, 10-12 shot strings over a relatively short time frame. Once I find a load that works and will group well, I typically shoot a dot drill when I practice to avoid getting "group anxiety". I shoot MOA dots out to around 600, If I am around center of target, that is a win. My standards for accuracy and precision stay the same for all my bolt action guns (semi auto are a different story), no matter the application. I haven't given up on these bullets, it's just been a really long time since I had to "work" to get a load to shoot. For my hunting guns, I usually load to about 30 thou short of mag length, try a few powder charges, and shoot the load that produces the best results. Admittedly, I am not a real big fan of "load tinkering". It reminds me of the days when I first started reloading for factory rifles, which seemed to be way harder to load for. My "other" load is a mono. Those are the ones I actually couldn't find a load that wouldn't shoot. Easily the most forgiving bullet I have ever shot, more so than the berger hybrid even. The only issue I have with those is the low BC. I really could care less about the elevation, but they aren't real forgiving in the wind, which is the most important benefit of a high BC bullet. [/QUOTE]
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