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Angle compensated Swaro's or Leica LRF's...?
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<blockquote data-quote="Guest" data-source="post: 114993"><p><strong>Re: Angle compensated Swaro\'s or Leica LRF\'s...?</strong></p><p></p><p>B1g Bore:</p><p></p><p>Shooting your .50, does the Leupold range finder really satisfy your long distance needs?</p><p></p><p>In my opinion, without taking into account the unique ballistics of the cartridge that is being utilized, without ballistic targeting software, the information delivered is basically useless.</p><p></p><p>If the shooter is utilizing a .308, with a 168 grain bullet, and the target is at 300 yards on a 45 degree angle, (approximately a 16 story building) and a correction for gravity is not calculated, the shooter will hit high approximately 8 inches. Now add a little wind…</p><p></p><p>What I beleive is a better off the shelf approach when calculating corrected for gravity distance to target, is to utilize the Improved Riflemen method. Multiply the Co-Sine number to your moa or mil hold as depicted on your data card.</p><p></p><p>700 yard mil hold equals 4.5 mils. 4.5 X .7 = 3.15 mils.</p><p>or 700 yard hold equals 14.0 moa. 14.0 moa X .7 = 9.8 moa.</p><p></p><p>It would be better if the range finder produced those results... But tell me, why do you think that Vectronix doesn't give you the straight line distance to target? Or the Swarovsky's, or Leica's?</p><p></p><p>How much did you spend on your Kirby?</p><p></p><p>How much do other hunters spend on their optics? </p><p>Swarovsky 8X 56mm Green (Armor Coated) SWA58081 -SPECIAL-</p><p> $1599 $1439</p><p></p><p>Zeiss 10X 42 FL (w soft case) BA/CF Black Rubber Armored </p><p> ZEI524522 </p><p> $1649</p><p></p><p>Swarovski Laser Guide 8x30...1500 Yards!!! SWA70002</p><p> $889</p><p> </p><p>Leica Geovid BRF- 8X 42 Binoculars -Yards-</p><p> LCA40028</p><p> $1995</p><p></p><p>By the way, Bill McDonald is the physics prof who developed the point mass model that Sierra uses in the Infinity program. But Jacob Bynum wrote an article in Precision Shooting that implies that it is somewhat restricted.</p><p></p><p>And by the way, your package has not yet arrived. When did you send it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest, post: 114993"] [b]Re: Angle compensated Swaro\'s or Leica LRF\'s...?[/b] B1g Bore: Shooting your .50, does the Leupold range finder really satisfy your long distance needs? In my opinion, without taking into account the unique ballistics of the cartridge that is being utilized, without ballistic targeting software, the information delivered is basically useless. If the shooter is utilizing a .308, with a 168 grain bullet, and the target is at 300 yards on a 45 degree angle, (approximately a 16 story building) and a correction for gravity is not calculated, the shooter will hit high approximately 8 inches. Now add a little wind… What I beleive is a better off the shelf approach when calculating corrected for gravity distance to target, is to utilize the Improved Riflemen method. Multiply the Co-Sine number to your moa or mil hold as depicted on your data card. 700 yard mil hold equals 4.5 mils. 4.5 X .7 = 3.15 mils. or 700 yard hold equals 14.0 moa. 14.0 moa X .7 = 9.8 moa. It would be better if the range finder produced those results... But tell me, why do you think that Vectronix doesn't give you the straight line distance to target? Or the Swarovsky's, or Leica's? How much did you spend on your Kirby? How much do other hunters spend on their optics? Swarovsky 8X 56mm Green (Armor Coated) SWA58081 -SPECIAL- $1599 $1439 Zeiss 10X 42 FL (w soft case) BA/CF Black Rubber Armored ZEI524522 $1649 Swarovski Laser Guide 8x30...1500 Yards!!! SWA70002 $889 Leica Geovid BRF- 8X 42 Binoculars -Yards- LCA40028 $1995 By the way, Bill McDonald is the physics prof who developed the point mass model that Sierra uses in the Infinity program. But Jacob Bynum wrote an article in Precision Shooting that implies that it is somewhat restricted. And by the way, your package has not yet arrived. When did you send it? [/QUOTE]
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