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Anchoring game. Why high shoulder over neck shots?
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<blockquote data-quote="bengineer" data-source="post: 2935506" data-attributes="member: 36951"><p>I used to be a double lunger. Ive morphed into a mid to high shoulder shooter. Finding game doesnt go as far. Especially like the above heart center shoulder hit. That seems to drop animals the most often. Elk included. Wrecks lungs, saves heart, drops butt then shoulders, indicating it will be where it was at the shot pretty consistently. </p><p>The margin for error on deer-sized critters seems about the same between shoulder and meat-saver shots. So far, every shoulder shot has either gone above the heart and hit the nerve plexus, knocking the animal out where it was and it bleeds to death (still breathing, lung blood coming out nose) or has broken spine. No survivors of that yet. Been feeling out those limits. Forward hits neck base, rear still hits lungs and often aorta. I use soft bullets almost exclusively. </p><p>I prefer under 3k fps muzzle speeds because I find less meat loss to bloodshot. Count me as a 375 guy, as opposed to a 25-06 guy, mostly, but I have two 25-06 that I also hunt with. Soft bullets both ways, but much more selective with the faster bullet.</p><p>I prefer not to hit the heart because I like to eat it. </p><p></p><p>I treat shooting game as a study and try to be kind in killing meat. I certainly don't want suffering or lost animals. A little meat lost to bullet wounding/damage is preferable to me than a clean single hole and 100 yds of blood-drop trailing. Unless I can use a dog to track, but again would prefer drt. </p><p></p><p>I archery shot a big cow moose which left the scene (100yds or so) and died in a perfect spot about 10 feet from a road. Loaded her whole. That offsets some but not all of the dead-run heart-shot freaked-out whitetail I've followed over the years. </p><p></p><p>Faster bullet impact speed seems to impart more blunt force trauma and certainly blood-shots more meat. Heavier bullets seem to penetrate deeper, whether hard or soft. Not all HP designs explode. Not all tipped bullets are soft or expand well, nor do they all expand violently. Bondeds seem to stay together but my experience here is pretty limited. Short bullets seem to turn/tumble, sometimes backwards. Long bullets seem to go pretty straight inside animals.</p><p></p><p>Your mileage may vary! Go study, experience and learn. This site has more info, experience and knowledge than any ten men could ever possibly gain. Use it like the examples of a big brother, good and bad.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bengineer, post: 2935506, member: 36951"] I used to be a double lunger. Ive morphed into a mid to high shoulder shooter. Finding game doesnt go as far. Especially like the above heart center shoulder hit. That seems to drop animals the most often. Elk included. Wrecks lungs, saves heart, drops butt then shoulders, indicating it will be where it was at the shot pretty consistently. The margin for error on deer-sized critters seems about the same between shoulder and meat-saver shots. So far, every shoulder shot has either gone above the heart and hit the nerve plexus, knocking the animal out where it was and it bleeds to death (still breathing, lung blood coming out nose) or has broken spine. No survivors of that yet. Been feeling out those limits. Forward hits neck base, rear still hits lungs and often aorta. I use soft bullets almost exclusively. I prefer under 3k fps muzzle speeds because I find less meat loss to bloodshot. Count me as a 375 guy, as opposed to a 25-06 guy, mostly, but I have two 25-06 that I also hunt with. Soft bullets both ways, but much more selective with the faster bullet. I prefer not to hit the heart because I like to eat it. I treat shooting game as a study and try to be kind in killing meat. I certainly don’t want suffering or lost animals. A little meat lost to bullet wounding/damage is preferable to me than a clean single hole and 100 yds of blood-drop trailing. Unless I can use a dog to track, but again would prefer drt. I archery shot a big cow moose which left the scene (100yds or so) and died in a perfect spot about 10 feet from a road. Loaded her whole. That offsets some but not all of the dead-run heart-shot freaked-out whitetail I've followed over the years. Faster bullet impact speed seems to impart more blunt force trauma and certainly blood-shots more meat. Heavier bullets seem to penetrate deeper, whether hard or soft. Not all HP designs explode. Not all tipped bullets are soft or expand well, nor do they all expand violently. Bondeds seem to stay together but my experience here is pretty limited. Short bullets seem to turn/tumble, sometimes backwards. Long bullets seem to go pretty straight inside animals. Your mileage may vary! Go study, experience and learn. This site has more info, experience and knowledge than any ten men could ever possibly gain. Use it like the examples of a big brother, good and bad. [/QUOTE]
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