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After re-barrel :: 2 shots close together and 1 shot further out
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<blockquote data-quote="Bret GRAVELINE Graveline" data-source="post: 2076283" data-attributes="member: 108926"><p>I have seen that many times, you've got some good suggestions going on here, but I have a few suggestions I believe will help, I started reloading in 71 or 72, rebarreled my first rifle in my high school ag shop class, (yes you could do that back then, they let me do that as long as the trigger was removed) I spent the better part of my adult life barreling guns and reloading for accuracy, when I retired in 2010 I had 109 different sets of reloading dies. I only mention this to give some insight that i not only have done this a long time but also a hell of a lot, when this occurs there were two things that were most likely to be the problem, bad bedding or a primer change was in order, some guns are just extremely finicky and some are very user friendly, in some rifles a primer may not make much of a difference but in others they can turn a clunker into a keeper, match primers do not always produce the tightest groups so don't be afraid to try several brands, I didn't pick up on the powder, but I would try going with one that is a lot faster and one that is a lot slower, some barrels don't start to behave until 200 rounds have been fired in them, back in the day I always started with bowler ballistic for ops and Winchester WLRM primers to get a feel for what a rifle will do, and last to check the bedding the best and easiest way is at the shooting bench, next time you go fire a group as you normally would, then let the barrel cool a bit, then remove the rear guard screw and fire a second group, if the rifle is bedded correctly point of impact shouldn't change, if it has, the bedding needs correcting, a properly bedded rifle won't change, and you dont need a torque wrench to tighten a properly bedded rifle, sometimes you can force a improperly bedded rifle to shoot well with adjusting the torque but you shouldn't need to if its bedded right.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bret GRAVELINE Graveline, post: 2076283, member: 108926"] I have seen that many times, you've got some good suggestions going on here, but I have a few suggestions I believe will help, I started reloading in 71 or 72, rebarreled my first rifle in my high school ag shop class, (yes you could do that back then, they let me do that as long as the trigger was removed) I spent the better part of my adult life barreling guns and reloading for accuracy, when I retired in 2010 I had 109 different sets of reloading dies. I only mention this to give some insight that i not only have done this a long time but also a hell of a lot, when this occurs there were two things that were most likely to be the problem, bad bedding or a primer change was in order, some guns are just extremely finicky and some are very user friendly, in some rifles a primer may not make much of a difference but in others they can turn a clunker into a keeper, match primers do not always produce the tightest groups so don't be afraid to try several brands, I didn't pick up on the powder, but I would try going with one that is a lot faster and one that is a lot slower, some barrels don't start to behave until 200 rounds have been fired in them, back in the day I always started with bowler ballistic for ops and Winchester WLRM primers to get a feel for what a rifle will do, and last to check the bedding the best and easiest way is at the shooting bench, next time you go fire a group as you normally would, then let the barrel cool a bit, then remove the rear guard screw and fire a second group, if the rifle is bedded correctly point of impact shouldn't change, if it has, the bedding needs correcting, a properly bedded rifle won't change, and you dont need a torque wrench to tighten a properly bedded rifle, sometimes you can force a improperly bedded rifle to shoot well with adjusting the torque but you shouldn't need to if its bedded right. [/QUOTE]
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