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7wsm or 28 Nosler
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<blockquote data-quote="SansSouci" data-source="post: 1245650" data-attributes="member: 84520"><p>Hi maninthemaze,</p><p></p><p>I hear ya. I have a Sako 7MM Rem Mag that weighs 10 pounds maybe a few ounces better. Oh so many years ago, on my second or third Wyoming trip, I had had enough of carrying a heavy rifle up and down high ridges. Two years ago I killed a huge elk with it after chasing him for two-and-a-half hours. I could have killed him just as dead with my much lighter .270 Win. BTW, I killed that bull of a lifetime with a 160 grain Partition that penetrated through-and-through his massive chest destroying his heart. He was dead on his hooves. One Partition, one very dead bull elk.</p><p></p><p>Cartridges are preference. Most will produce the identical outcome: dead big game. If I could start anew, I'd buy a .280 Rem and never need another rifle for all North American big game. However, my first choice would be ease of carry. I'd try to keep the entire rifle at 8 pound or less. </p><p></p><p>The practical reality is there ain't arguing difference between the .270 Win and the .280 Rem unless we were to factor in 175 grain bullets that the latter will shoot exceptionally well. With it's high sectional density, the 175 grain bullet has incredible penetration ability. It was used successfully by an African elephant culler who killed shy of a thousand elephants with a 7x57 shooting 175 grain solids. </p><p></p><p>There is magic in .284 bullets. To get better sectional density, one has to travel far up the power and recoil continuum. </p><p></p><p>I believe the the 7MM Rem Mag remains our best selling magnum cartridge, and for good reason: it kills as advertised. If you're looking for component availability, you can't go wrong with the 7MM Rem Mag. While I know nothing about the Nosler round, I'd guess that it won't kill big game any deader than the 7MM Rem Mag. I don't expect any .284 cartridge to ever threaten the 7MM Rem Mag's .284 dominance; hence, you'll always be able to find factory ammo and loading components. But in the end, you'll have to go with what you like best.</p><p></p><p>I agree with you 100% about making rifle weight a primary criterion. Carrying a heavy rifle all day, especially when a lighter one will kill big game just as dead, is not be fun. </p><p></p><p>I wish you success in finding your perfect rifle. </p><p></p><p>P.S. Don't exclude the '06, or, if you like short actions, the .308 Win. They'll kill all North American big game just as dead as any magnum. Before magnums came along, the '06 was killing all big game in North America and the world.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SansSouci, post: 1245650, member: 84520"] Hi maninthemaze, I hear ya. I have a Sako 7MM Rem Mag that weighs 10 pounds maybe a few ounces better. Oh so many years ago, on my second or third Wyoming trip, I had had enough of carrying a heavy rifle up and down high ridges. Two years ago I killed a huge elk with it after chasing him for two-and-a-half hours. I could have killed him just as dead with my much lighter .270 Win. BTW, I killed that bull of a lifetime with a 160 grain Partition that penetrated through-and-through his massive chest destroying his heart. He was dead on his hooves. One Partition, one very dead bull elk. Cartridges are preference. Most will produce the identical outcome: dead big game. If I could start anew, I'd buy a .280 Rem and never need another rifle for all North American big game. However, my first choice would be ease of carry. I'd try to keep the entire rifle at 8 pound or less. The practical reality is there ain't arguing difference between the .270 Win and the .280 Rem unless we were to factor in 175 grain bullets that the latter will shoot exceptionally well. With it's high sectional density, the 175 grain bullet has incredible penetration ability. It was used successfully by an African elephant culler who killed shy of a thousand elephants with a 7x57 shooting 175 grain solids. There is magic in .284 bullets. To get better sectional density, one has to travel far up the power and recoil continuum. I believe the the 7MM Rem Mag remains our best selling magnum cartridge, and for good reason: it kills as advertised. If you're looking for component availability, you can't go wrong with the 7MM Rem Mag. While I know nothing about the Nosler round, I'd guess that it won't kill big game any deader than the 7MM Rem Mag. I don't expect any .284 cartridge to ever threaten the 7MM Rem Mag's .284 dominance; hence, you'll always be able to find factory ammo and loading components. But in the end, you'll have to go with what you like best. I agree with you 100% about making rifle weight a primary criterion. Carrying a heavy rifle all day, especially when a lighter one will kill big game just as dead, is not be fun. I wish you success in finding your perfect rifle. P.S. Don't exclude the '06, or, if you like short actions, the .308 Win. They'll kill all North American big game just as dead as any magnum. Before magnums came along, the '06 was killing all big game in North America and the world. [/QUOTE]
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