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7mm stw or 28 nosler?
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<blockquote data-quote="Calamity" data-source="post: 2585555" data-attributes="member: 112048"><p>Some POV/bias qualification first: My first gun was a Mauser 95 in 7x57 (and it still gripes me that they won't load the cartridge to 62,000 psi with a Plus+P warning for old guns). I like the 7mm bore for several reasons, with historical/romantic ethos admittedly large, but for sound engineering reasons as well (I'm an ME w/physics background, 21 years DoD and Fed Svc as Chief of Operations & Maintenance). I have built a few custom rifles over the years, including five sevens; a 7x57, a 7x61 S&H and three 7mm RMs. I handload, but haven't been active in the last ten years due to my locations. I'm happy to see the greater science aspect in the sport and the manufacturers support with advanced powder chemistry and bullet construction. Barrel makers, too. For my money, H&H had it right, the belt is a superior head-spacing feature and it does not affect feeding. As an accuracy issue, it is a non-sequitur. Get over it. The short, fat powder column was first experimented with by Roy Gradle and written about by Warren Page in the 7mm Gradle Express. It is a sound and proven engineering strategy to increase efficiency, but the difference in performance amounts to just a few grains of powder, and a bit more consistency in velocity. If those are important to you, then more power to you. To sum up, If I were in the market, I would choose a 7 STW over any of the newer 7's. Just thought a discussion of reasons was due. And, in a talkative mood.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Calamity, post: 2585555, member: 112048"] Some POV/bias qualification first: My first gun was a Mauser 95 in 7x57 (and it still gripes me that they won't load the cartridge to 62,000 psi with a Plus+P warning for old guns). I like the 7mm bore for several reasons, with historical/romantic ethos admittedly large, but for sound engineering reasons as well (I'm an ME w/physics background, 21 years DoD and Fed Svc as Chief of Operations & Maintenance). I have built a few custom rifles over the years, including five sevens; a 7x57, a 7x61 S&H and three 7mm RMs. I handload, but haven't been active in the last ten years due to my locations. I'm happy to see the greater science aspect in the sport and the manufacturers support with advanced powder chemistry and bullet construction. Barrel makers, too. For my money, H&H had it right, the belt is a superior head-spacing feature and it does not affect feeding. As an accuracy issue, it is a non-sequitur. Get over it. The short, fat powder column was first experimented with by Roy Gradle and written about by Warren Page in the 7mm Gradle Express. It is a sound and proven engineering strategy to increase efficiency, but the difference in performance amounts to just a few grains of powder, and a bit more consistency in velocity. If those are important to you, then more power to you. To sum up, If I were in the market, I would choose a 7 STW over any of the newer 7's. Just thought a discussion of reasons was due. And, in a talkative mood. [/QUOTE]
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