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7mm Sherman Short Mag vs 300 Win mag
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<blockquote data-quote="Broz" data-source="post: 1197522" data-attributes="member: 7503"><p>Yes Rich, I understand completely. But would you shoot an elk at 1300 yards with it? I personally would not. I would even have to do a deep soul search before I took a 1300 yard elk shot with my 300 win and a 215. Smaller game ok. I have taken antelope with my 300 at 1300 yards. So I was trying to offer inside where most of us would use these calibers, and on the game I have most of the most data. </p><p> </p><p>And again I agree with the efficiency of your chamberings. Very efficient and impressive for sure.</p><p> </p><p>There is no way we can over come the value of BC when we go to the point where the velocities cross. BC will always prevail. But inside usable hunting distances we can make good comparisons to see what works best for each of us.</p><p> </p><p>We are so lucky today to have the high BC options we do. I hear there is a 245 gr 30 cal on the horizon. Put that in an efficient chambering and a proposed BC over .8 and it looks impressive for sure. But until we take them to the field it is all just blue sky.</p><p> </p><p>I also want to offer that readers take my terminal performance results and give them a hard look. I was very disappointed in the dispatch qualities of the 7 on elk. I have seen this over and over in my life, first with 168's, then 180's now 195's. I really had high hopes for the 7mm 195 in my program. Think about it. Would I ignore a documented advantage in ballistics? I want all I can get to improve my percentage of quick kills. From external ballistics to terminal performance. But in the end I want them dead as quickly as possible and that trumped my decision to use what kills best.</p><p> </p><p>Jeff</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Broz, post: 1197522, member: 7503"] Yes Rich, I understand completely. But would you shoot an elk at 1300 yards with it? I personally would not. I would even have to do a deep soul search before I took a 1300 yard elk shot with my 300 win and a 215. Smaller game ok. I have taken antelope with my 300 at 1300 yards. So I was trying to offer inside where most of us would use these calibers, and on the game I have most of the most data. And again I agree with the efficiency of your chamberings. Very efficient and impressive for sure. There is no way we can over come the value of BC when we go to the point where the velocities cross. BC will always prevail. But inside usable hunting distances we can make good comparisons to see what works best for each of us. We are so lucky today to have the high BC options we do. I hear there is a 245 gr 30 cal on the horizon. Put that in an efficient chambering and a proposed BC over .8 and it looks impressive for sure. But until we take them to the field it is all just blue sky. I also want to offer that readers take my terminal performance results and give them a hard look. I was very disappointed in the dispatch qualities of the 7 on elk. I have seen this over and over in my life, first with 168's, then 180's now 195's. I really had high hopes for the 7mm 195 in my program. Think about it. Would I ignore a documented advantage in ballistics? I want all I can get to improve my percentage of quick kills. From external ballistics to terminal performance. But in the end I want them dead as quickly as possible and that trumped my decision to use what kills best. Jeff [/QUOTE]
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