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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 777044" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>The 7STW guys on this forum are gonna learn to hate me. I would go with a 7 Dakota any day. Not to mention the OP is concerned about recoil and when you go to an STW, you're going to similar recoil as a 300 WM and the 300 will still deliver more mass and KE down range.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>When diameter increases, frontal area and mass increase exponentially. </p><p></p><p>The unexpanded frontal area of a 7mm is .063 sqin vs .074 sqin for a .308. That's about 17% increase over the 7mm. Factor in expansion and the difference is greater. The 215 bullet has has 19% more mass than a 180 bullet. Overall you're going to get about 20% more smack and destruction form the 300WM vs 7RM. That's a little more than "squat"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That kind of statement just cause me to shake my head as it is total BS. And... there is more to killing than KE. KE is not a pure killing factor. It helps, but there is more to the equation than that.</p><p></p><p>Hey fellas, can you kill an elk with a 22 LR. Yup, you sure can. Would I try it? Nope. Why? Because it's extremely small and light and slow. How about a 22-250? Yes again, it can definitely kill an elk. Would I use it? Nope.</p><p></p><p>I think everyone agrees that the higher you climb the ladder, the GREATER the EFFECTIVE KILLING FACTOR is. There is no such thing as overkill. There is such a thing as underkill.</p><p></p><p>For those of you who want assure the OP that a 7RM is a good 1000 yd elk rifle go ahead. I will not. Can it get the job done? Sure. Could it fail? Yup. The 300 WM provides insurance and flexibility. When the 7RM reaches the end of it's effective killing parameters the 300 WM is still good to go. A 7Rm is NOT a 300 WM and never will be, There is nothing magic about about a 7mm.</p><p></p><p>A 22 is a 22. A 243 is a 243. A 270 is a 270. A 7mm is a 7mm. A 308 is a 308. A 338 is a 338.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 777044, member: 11717"] The 7STW guys on this forum are gonna learn to hate me. I would go with a 7 Dakota any day. Not to mention the OP is concerned about recoil and when you go to an STW, you're going to similar recoil as a 300 WM and the 300 will still deliver more mass and KE down range. When diameter increases, frontal area and mass increase exponentially. The unexpanded frontal area of a 7mm is .063 sqin vs .074 sqin for a .308. That's about 17% increase over the 7mm. Factor in expansion and the difference is greater. The 215 bullet has has 19% more mass than a 180 bullet. Overall you're going to get about 20% more smack and destruction form the 300WM vs 7RM. That's a little more than "squat" That kind of statement just cause me to shake my head as it is total BS. And... there is more to killing than KE. KE is not a pure killing factor. It helps, but there is more to the equation than that. Hey fellas, can you kill an elk with a 22 LR. Yup, you sure can. Would I try it? Nope. Why? Because it's extremely small and light and slow. How about a 22-250? Yes again, it can definitely kill an elk. Would I use it? Nope. I think everyone agrees that the higher you climb the ladder, the GREATER the EFFECTIVE KILLING FACTOR is. There is no such thing as overkill. There is such a thing as underkill. For those of you who want assure the OP that a 7RM is a good 1000 yd elk rifle go ahead. I will not. Can it get the job done? Sure. Could it fail? Yup. The 300 WM provides insurance and flexibility. When the 7RM reaches the end of it's effective killing parameters the 300 WM is still good to go. A 7Rm is NOT a 300 WM and never will be, There is nothing magic about about a 7mm. A 22 is a 22. A 243 is a 243. A 270 is a 270. A 7mm is a 7mm. A 308 is a 308. A 338 is a 338. [/QUOTE]
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